Has the Great Tribulation Already started?

by The Fall Guy 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    Thank goodness for flip-flops. Otherwise we'd never get to know the "truth!" :)

    YES! w51 3/15 p. 164 - When Christ was enthroned, in 1914, great tribulation was started against Satan and his wicked world organization.

    NO! w54 12/1 p. 712 - So "this generation" from 1914 shall not pass till the "time of the end" closes with the "great tribulation".

    NO! w55 10/15 p. 623 par. 9 The Triumphant Message of "The Kingdom"

    ....the preaching must continue until the battle of Armageddon, the "great tribulation

    YES! w56 12/15 p. 755 par. 11 - At the start of the great tribulation upon Satan’s organization in 1914 all such people felt merely the "beginning of pangs of distress,"

    YES! w56 2/15 p. 119 par. 38 - Jehovah halted that "war in heaven" [1914].....Thus he cut short the "great tribulation" upon Satan’s world.

    YES! w57 10/1 p. 604 par. 40 - The days of that tribulation have been cut short by allowing Satan a "short period of time" to operate at the earth for the testing of the remnant,

    YES! w58 11/15 p. 691 par. 22 - In 1918 he stopped the great tribulation that had begun upon the enemy organization of Satan the Devil.

    NO! w59 4/15 p. 242 par. 21 - during the great tribulation that is yet to come,

    YES! w61 10/15 p. 631 - This tribulation on Satan’s organization began in 1914 when Christ warred with the Devil and his angels

    YES! w61 11/1 p. 671 - By this war in heaven against the Devil’s invisible organization the "great tribulation" began.

    YES! w61 11/1 p. 671 - Thus for the time being the great tribulation upon Satan’s organization was interrupted or discontinued. Evidently that occurred by A.D. 1918.

    YES! w67 10/15 p. 629 par. 21 - The name "the great tribulation" well applies to this time of tribulation that has been upon mankind since the year of the outbreak of World War I, to wit, 1914,

    NO! w70 5/1 p. 286 - In its modern application, what is the "great tribulation" mentioned at Matthew 24:21, 22, and when is it to occur?........That "great tribulation" is yet ahead.

    NO! w80 10/15 p. 13 par. 5 - ......the coming “great tribulation” will be a time of upheaval unequaled in the entire history of the human family. But mercifully, it will be a very brief time, one that God will “cut short.”

  • James Mixon
    James Mixon

    So you wonder why folks ran ahead and thought the end was near, lol..It's enough to scare the bejesus out of you....

  • redpilltwice

    Thanks Fall Guy.

    Russell was wrong about certain dates, such as 1914 and 1915, but even he would turn in his grave when faced with all these flip-flop doctrines. At least he believed and wrote:

    "A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. 'New Light' never extinguishes older 'light,' but adds to it. ...So is it with the light of truth; the true increase is by adding to, not by substituting one for another." Zion's Watch Tower, February 1881

    Has anyone tried this one on active witnesses? Would be fun to hear some experiences.

  • Are you serious
    Are you serious

    Thanks The Fall Guy! That was awesome and hilarious.

  • AverageJoe1
  • Finkelstein

    So you wonder why folks ran ahead and thought the end was near, lol..It's enough to scare the bejesus out of you....

    That's part of the answer, the other part is that the WTS wanted to attract attention to the literature it published, you see its a religious publishing house.

    The WTS has been involved in corrupt theological bullshit for over 140 years, the only reason it worked is that there a basic belief in the bible in a given segment of the population.

    Fear mongering charlatanism is just that, mind you the WTS is a little more dangerous and corrupt as other modern day charlatans because this organization created a organized religion around itself exploiting and manipulating people into loyal servitude as its own public sales representatives.

  • James Mixon
    James Mixon

    The information here is so dangerous to the GB, we talk about how long will the WT survive. If each JW came here just for one month or maybe a week, there would be a lot more KH sold.

  • steve2

    It beggars belief that people can believe this religious nonsense. I suppose it helps that most JWs do not appear to think any of this through - for if they did, they would conclude it is nonsense.

  • krismalone

    Average Joe,

    Thank you for that wt quote. By C.T. Russels own words, the WT corporation is a man made, delusional, cult.

    That paragraph alone destroys WT credibility and exposes it as man made religion with personal ideas. I believe that's the most damaging paragraph in all the 150 yrs of b.s. they've been producing.

  • TD

    To be fair, JW's prior to 1970 taught that although the tribulation had started in 1914, it had been "cut short" meaning that it had stopped, but would shortly begin again.

    Comments prior to that year have to be evaluated relative to which portion of the tribulation is under discussion. (i.e. The part that had already occurred or the part that was still to come.)

    The original Great Crowd doctrine (1935 to 1970) actually maintained that these people had already come out of the tribulation (The first part of it....) and when the tribulation was relocated in its entirety to some indeterminate point in the future, they were relegated to only "prospective" members

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