# the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)

by pleaseresearch 82 Replies latest watchtower bible

• ##### Fisherman
Some people live in a construct where fact is subjective

Which fact?

• ##### schnell

It is a relatively recent idea that 2520 years after a temple somewhere in the world got destroyed, something/anything would happen in the spirit realm. It is that idea that creates the interest a party has in that 2520 years terminating in 1914 or in 1933/4.

Why would this god wait 2520 years to do anything? Why would anything like this take that long, and that specific amount of time? I don't know, because the church wants money, that's why.

I could play with the numbers a little. Maybe that'll bring up something interesting.

2 + 5 + 2 + 0 = 9

1 + 2 + 6 + 0 = 9

1 + 4 + 4 = 9

1260 * 2 = 2520

2520 / 12 = 1260 / 24 = 210 (Note that 2520 is a multiple of 12, because of course it is.)

1260 / 12 = 105

12 * 100 = 1200

12 * 5 = 60 (Yes, yes, Babylonian math was base-60 and 1260 is 12*100 + 60. At this point I'm messing around.)

2520 = 12*5*21*2

2520 = 2*3*4*5*7*3

2520 = 3*4*5*6*7 (Of course, 1260 = 2*3*5*6*7)

1260 = 35 * 36

36 * 2 = 72

36 * 2 * 2 = 144

Anyway. Carry on.

• ##### schnell
Which fact?

Oh, I don't know, the one you're arguing about, possibly?

607-70= 537

• ##### schnell

70 years = symbolic

• ##### schnell

I mean, it's not as if 72 years wasn't significant. As Manly P. Hall says about precession:

Each year the sun passes entirely around the zodiac and returns to the point from which it started—the vernal equinox—and each year it falls little behind the spot in the zodiacal sign where it crossed the previous year. Each sign of the zodiac consists of thirty degrees, and as the sun loses about one degree every seventy two years, it regresses through one entire constellation (or sign) in approximately 2,160 years, and through the entire zodiac in about ] 25,920 years. (Authorities disagree concerning these figures.) This retrograde motion is called the precession of the equinoxes. This means that in the course of about 25,920 years, which constitute one Great Solar or Platonic Year, each one of the twelve constellations occupies a position at the vernal equinox for nearly 2,160 years, then gives place to the previous sign.

(Hall, The Secret Teachings of the Ages)

I like how 1260 is 2160 with a couple digits transposed, and it's 900 off. That's interesting.

Of course, what I'm getting at here is that the book of Revelation is loaded with astrology. The book of Revelation is where you get 1260 years. The WTS, of course, demonizes astrology, so their doctrine of history is at the very least internally inconsistent.

So basically, even while they discredit things like Ptolemy's Canon, etc., you could apply the very same logic to them.

• ##### schnell

Oh, and immediately before that discussion of precession, Hall wrote about the zodiac in ages past having only 10 signs.

With 12 signs, each sign has 30° as he says in the above quote, but with only 10 signs, each sign has 36°.

1260 = 36 * 7 * 5

1260 = 36 * 35

Now considering what Hall wrote in the above quote about precession, how many times does 360° (the full circle of the zodiac) go into 2160?

2160 / 360 = 6

Hmm. Interesting too is "time and times and half a time." That means 3.5 times, right? Well, how many times does 360° (the full circle of the zodiac) go into 1260?

1260 / 360 = 3.5

• ##### schnell

Oh, and how many times does 360 go into 2520?

Naturally, it's seven. It's "seven times".

2520 / 360 = 7

2520 = 36 * 70

So, have fun thumping that occult text at people door-to-door. :)

##### Fisherman

607-70= 537

Nonsensical since Nebuchadnezzar didn't take to throne of Babylon not until 605 BCE.

Someone's bullshitting ? was it the bible writers who were prone to twist the truth to create sacred divine significance when proclaiming the activity of their god concerning times and dates ie 40, 7, 70 etc

• ##### schnell

CORRECTION!

Above, I stated that

2520 / 12 = 1260 / 24 = 210

And that is not correct.

2520 / 12 = 1260 / 6 = 210

There. Fixed it. And even if nobody else is as excited about a bunch of math on an Internet forum about religion, I'm still pretty stoked that I just took out a calculator and showed that those funny Bible numbers all the religious quacks talk about are entirely astrological.

EDIT:

One last thing, I can't resist! Hahaha

2520 * 10 + 720 = 25920 (the length of a Great Solar or Platonic Year)