the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)

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  • pleaseresearch

    So a user named "the-question" said the JW's were right about 607 BCE.

    This is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.

    We all can't wait to hear from you :)

  • Vanderhoven7

    Terry once wrote

    Counting back from that date, and adding up what they have discerned to be the reigns of each king, 605 BCE is found to be the first year of mighty King Nebuchadnezzar. Jeremiah says this King destroyed the city of Jerusalem in his 19th year of rule. Hence, counting forward 19 years bring us to 587 BCE. Incidentally, this is also the method Christendom uses.

    Instead a straight-forward recitation of facts and methods, the writer tosses in a signal subliminal and prejudical for Jehovah's Witnesses to turn on their programming. Cult mind control will now commence. Nothing is more disgusting and revolting to the eye of a Jehovah's Witness than the word Christendom.

    Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand, believe something the secular historians do not.

    This is where the attention is diverted from facts and methods into changing the argument entirely in another direction.

    THIS IS THE SIGNAL: US vs THEM Loyalty alert!

    We believe the Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of God, so we take the Bible's prophecies into account when calculating ancient chronology.

    A completely different topic! How smoothly this pivot has been executed! Like a magician diverting attention away from a magic trick.

    Who are you going to trust? The Bible and the Governing Body or Christendom and Bible haters?

    No matter what information is presented from this point there will be no way a Jehovah's Witness can be objective about the outcome.

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    @ the-question: if you are a genuine & sincere Bible student, compare the WTBTS's chronology of the Babylonian/Medo-Persian prophecy with the Biblical account.

    Fact: Babylon and its king were overthrown in a single night in 539 BCE. If Jerusalem was destroyed by Babylon 70 years earlier, that would give the year of 609 BCE - not 607 BCE.

    Fact: In order to force "a square peg into a round hole," the alleged "faithful slave" states that it took the exiled Jews more than a year to return to Jerusalem and begin their rebuilding projects.

    These scriptures put the spotlight on the WTBT's corrupt logic of adding on time to prophecies in order to fit their prophetic predictions. (e.g. "overlapping" generations)

    (Jeremiah 25:11,12) "And all this land must become a devastated place, an object of astonishment, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon seventy years."’ (not 68 years - and then serve the Medo-Persian king for the remaining 18 months) And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled (not 68 years) I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘their error,..."

    (Jeremiah 29:10) "For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years (not 68 years) at Babylon I shall turn my attention to YOU people,..."

    (Zechariah 7:5) "Say to all the people of the land and to the priests, ‘When YOU fasted and there was a wailing in the fifth month and in the seventh month, and this for seventy years,.." (were they wailing for 68 or 70 years?)

    The org's sums don't add up.

  • btlc

    Even WT Bible, NWT, point to 587 BCE as time of Jerusalem fall. How? Open book of Zechariah:
    1:7, 12: the second year of Darius, the foreseen "70 years" still ongoing
    7:1-5: the fourth year of Darius, "70 years" just finished.
    Now, turn page 1662 (2013 Edition), Zachariah, writing completed 518. BCE, time covered 520-518 BCE. So, by the WT own Bible appendix, "70 years" was 587-518 BCE.

  • tepidpoultry

    You realize folks that at any time

    Watch Tower can rewrite everything

    And make it sound like it's their own brilliant idea

    It's not like it's never happened before


    Carry on


  • tepidpoultry
  • tor1500


    I say they are trying another method of counting time....Door to Door ain't working...Question may answer or not...I say don't give him no more hours....Plus they are not supposed to be on a site that's not if they are really drinking the kool-aide.


  • Sanchy

    I think the Question was banned from the forums for trolling.

  • Crazyguy

    That guy is an idiot!!!!

  • Londo111

    And he wasn't interested in discussing the matter either.

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