Why is Trump so effective???
1.) I'm not sure it's fair to compare President Clinton's actions to President Trump's actions in regards to the State Department because it sets up a false equivalency. To be clear, the issues is NOT that Trump is putting his own people in charge. Rather, the issue is that Trump has fired nearly every leadership role in the state department MONTHS before he will be able to get conformations or replacements for them. This is a huge problem for a country seeking a leadership role in the world. Gutting the State Department is like turning the US into a sailing ship without sails. Trump can spin the helm to his hearts delight - but the ship isn't going anywhere.
And this is nothing like Bill Clinton who had his replacements lined up and ready to go BEFORE dismissing any prior appointees. Trump is just being plain reckless.
Fair point. You are correct. It’s nice to have someone on here who thinks these things through in a discussion thank you
I still feel this doesn’t concern me so much because Trump has clearly been on a mission to shrink “government”. So I think the media is presenting it as chaos, when rather it’s his move to redirect money into American problems within the country, not outside.
Another thing to consider is what has out state department become? It has become a “political” state department. From 1789 to about 9/11 that’s not what it was. Now it’s another bloated government agency spilling and crossing over into other departments. Originally the state department was about diplomacy and negotiated treaties and ended wars. Now? Hmmmm… can you or anyone tell me what the Department’s Special Representative for the Great Lakes Region of Africa does?
I don’t think he is eliminating the state department, I think he is putting it on an extreme diet. The results have yet to be seen, but I am still not sold on global apocalypse because of thrashing what has become another bureaucratic quagmire.
2.) I'm not sure why you're saying MSM is "making stories" about Kellyanne Connoway. The only persons responsible for the parade of nonsense coming out of the mouths of Trump's media team are - Trump's media team. The fact that they habitually run around peddling conspiracy theories and false narratives is deeply concerning. And, more importantly, a great many articles and air time has been spent on Scott Pruitt's scientific illiteracy.
It is possible to cover both the lies/idiocy of Kellyanne and simultaneously cover the lies/idiocy of Scott. News is not a zero-sum game.
I disagree with you on this. Not that Kellyanne says or do stupid things, but that the MSM’s inability to resist obsessing about it is a good diversion tactic if Trump wants it to be. Why play his game? A true scandal is going on, have Kellyanne say something crazy, suddenly the MSM channels are choked and jammed with nonsense because of their insatiable appetite to be entertainment (not news). Our news media has become sensational entertainment media, and the Kellyanne circus plays right into click bait headlines, and twitterable sound bites. I don’t buy it. I would not be surprised if more often than not, its calculated diversion. The media is like a dog chasing a tennis ball, throw it over there, they all run.
3.) Your comments regarding the UN remind me of when my congregation went to visit Bethel and we stopped at the UN building along the way. The brother conducting the tour went on about how, "since the UN was formed there have been over 300 wars" and how it was a total failure.
Of course, what the brother failed to mention was all the wars that the UN had STOPPED from ever happening. He failed to mention all the wars that were shortened in length because the UN intervened. He failed to mention all the treaties signed that prevented countries from using chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons on the battlefield. And he failed to mention all the cases in which the UN managed to broker a lasting peace between countries.
The value of the UN cannot be overstated. And to threaten to abandon it like Trump has is a fools gambit.
Do you have a list of great accomplishments of the U.N. in peacekeeping? Their sessions are a joke. In the 1960s Ayn Rand (I know I will catch shit for quoting her) said: "What would you expect from a crime-fighting committee whose board of directors included the leading gangsters of the community?" Here is something I cannot overstate (even typing it is such a joke). THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PUT IRAN AND SUADI ARABIA ON ITS HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL. If that is not the height of ironic stupidity I don't know what is.
Symbolically it may be something, but in action, I don’t know. Most of the “peacekeeping”, even when the U.N. was involved, was carried out by the U.S. military.
Since the inception of the UN, there have been hundreds of armed conflicts around the world. Your bethel brother was right about that lol. The UN authorized the use of force just TWICE to my knowledge (Korea and Gulf War I). That means if you live in a country where war breaks out, you have a 0.0083% chance that the UN will actually send troops to help you out! (as long as you don't mind that 90% of the troops who show up are American). That’s reality.
THE U.N. IS BAD VALUE FOR THE MONEY.
4.) Between January and September of last year the US Coast Guard seized over 416,000 pounds of cocaine (with an estimated value of 5.6 billion dollars). And by the end of the year it had intercepted additional 26 tons of cocaine. I'd hardly call that a "negligible impact".
This is something I happen to have some life experience with. The “War on Drugs” to me is one of the biggest wastes of money. This is a game the government chooses to play and not stop. Its all a show, that goes for the DEA as well. Occasionally catch a few bad guys (sometime a prearranged deal), make a show, keep the agency going. I don’t think the main value of our coast guard is the war on drugs. Our own CIA is so deeply involved with cartels and other shit it’s not even really a war. Just another circus to keep big government spending money on BS.
Perhaps if we had smarter drug laws (aka educating people on safe recreational use instead of felony charges) we wouldn't have to spend so much on our Coast Guard. But that's a whole separate topic.
Drug laws make no sense to me. If you want to do coke, they are not going to stop you, just punish you if you get caught. Like you said this is a whole other major topic that we probably agree on.
I respect all your opinions coded, I just think we don't agree on certain things and thats cool
But the potential damage from his [Farage's] "Brexit-inducing" words - the party manifestos of both Labour and the Conservatives promised a referendum on EU membership.
UK citizens deserved this referendum, with or without Farridge.
Coded Logic - "The value of the UN cannot be overstated."
Oh yes, it's absolutely vital.
How else are the Illuminati / Bilderbergers / Reptilians going to usher in the New World Order?
"The value of the UN cannot be overstated."
I'm still failing to see any tangible value presented for the value of the U.N. Its honestly as useless as the League of Nations was, it's just survived longer.
As I said, THE U.N. IS BAD VALUE FOR THE MONEY.
• The Syrian civil war
• Russia invading eastern Ukraine,
• Refugees surging across Europe
Where is the U.N.?
And don't even get me started on it's role in WT "prophecy"...
So I think the media is presenting it as chaos, when rather it’s his move to redirect money into American problems within the country, not outside.
Let's fact-check that. The state department oversees negotiation of trade and foreign negotiations including diplomacy, i.e. looking after US interests to the outside world by non-violent means including trade.
Trump is slashing state department funding (and don't rely on what you think; read what people who work with these institutions are saying) to give money to (primarily) the military, who looks after US interests abroad by violent means.
So you have to define "American problems" in some way to conform to that reality; i.e. not as having to do with trade or negotiations, but about military power.
What problems are those, exactly? Syria/ISIS is trying to be solved using an international coalition (and with considerable success), but nobody suggested that it was a matter of military power, i.e. hundreds of thousans of US troops in Iraq & Syria.
Meanwhile, which "American problems" are Trump focusing on? Surely not the problem of getting health insurance if you are above 60 and not rich (24 mil. are projected to loose insurance), or the problem of global warming, or the problem of safety regulations if you are a minor, or the problem of various environmental problems which will be made worse by the slashing of e.g. the EPA, or the problem of getting your kids educated if you are not rich.
The budget can be spun various ways, but if you just look at the numbers Trumps budget can be more fairly described as "reducing funding for domestic programs that deal with health/safety for common people, reduce funding for US diplomacy and give tax reduction to the rich and increase military spending". If you disagree please show me which items I am missing out on.
Another thing to consider is what has out state department become? It has become a “political” state department. From 1789 to about 9/11 that’s not what it was. Now it’s another bloated government agency spilling and crossing over into other departments.
I got no idea what this means and It sounds like pure opinion.
Yes, the state department has expanded, reflecting the increasing needs for diplomacy and negotiation of trade agreements in a more and more globalized world where problems aren't resolved by military. Why is that bad?
What can be asserted without evidence...
As I said, THE U.N. IS BAD VALUE FOR THE MONEY.
Russia invading eastern Ukraine, (...) Where is the U.N.?
Well, where is Trump? You mention problems that are largely due to the failure of nation-states to engage in diplomacy and lawful behavior, then use that as an argument to say that we should do away with the UN which provides an international forum to define lawful behaviour and impose consequences for unlawful behaviour, however imperfect. The argument makes as much sense as saying that because there are still fires we should do away with the fire department.
Here is a more relevant "where is"-question: Where is Polio?
reflecting the increasing needs for diplomacy and negotiation of trade agreements in a more and more globalized world where problems aren't resolved by military. Why is that bad
I am going to call BullShit on this touchy feely crapola. "Its all about peace and love and america micto managing the world that can't manage itself". Lets looat another perspective.
Isn't it sweet bohm, our state department spreading peace love and democracy via a $60,000,000 arms sale to a country that would like nothing more than to see us all dead lol. Warms my heart. How the state department is selling diplomacy rifles, and democracy grenade launchers to our enemy...
What can be asserted without evidence...
Actually I keep posting evidence of the U.N. failures, also how they are complete morons who put the worst human rights offending countries on the effing human rights council... sorry thats not enough, I am sure I can go dig up more for you.
And stay on topic, as usual you are trying to bounce around and make what we WERE talking about a soap box to complain about something else Trump did that hurt your feelings
Also if you read anything I wrote earlier I to criticized his EPA actions, so don't try to throw me under that bus.