text messaging = dating. I kid you not!

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  • ESTEE
    ESTEE

    Choosing Your Career Wisely

    Christian sisters especially must guard against this form of Jezebel influence, remembering that this wicked queen usurped her husband's rightfull headship, even going so far as to proofread his letters. - The Watchtower: Are secretaries for Christians?

    Guess that's where I got of track.... Now I'm Jezebel, doncha know!!!

    ESTEE

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    Here ya go:

    Young

    People Ask . . .

    What’s

    Wrong With Talking to Each Other?

    ‘WE’RE not dating, we’re just talking.’ That is how 17-year-old Denny describes his relationship with Tina. They met at a convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and since then they have regularly had long conversations on the telephone. Denny admits they are too young to pursue a serious courtship. But he sees nothing wrong in their simply talking to each other.

    Many youths who are not allowed by their parents to go out on formal dates are allowed to nurture friendships with the opposite sex by frequent conversations and phone calls. Innocent fun? Perhaps. But some parents are alarmed. "There seems to be quite a problem here with very young teenagers ‘going’ with other young teenagers," writes one concerned parent. "They are not dating, but they do consider each other boyfriend and girlfriend."

    Other youths cultivate boy-girl relationships by writing. These letters may be nothing more than innocent expressions of friendship. Oftentimes, though, they become increasingly romantic in tone. Romantic involvement may also result when youths get involved with writing individuals who are known to set poor examples as Christians. It may be claimed that the correspondence began as a sincere attempt to encourage such ones.

    Talking

    or Dating?

    The Bible does not condemn talking or writing to members of the opposite sex. Christians are supposed to "have love for the whole association of brothers," and that includes peers of both sexes. (1 Peter 2:17) The Bible further tells young men to treat "younger women as sisters with all chasteness." (1 Timothy 5:2) When this principle is applied, young men and women can enjoy clean, wholesome relationships—yes, friendships!

    Christian youths normally enjoy such friendships in group settings, however. So when two youths single each other out for special attention, the relationship begins to take on the appearance of a romance, a courtship. Is this necessarily the same as dating? Most youths would probably say no. However, teenagers are not always sure exactly what adults mean by dating.

    When one group of youths were asked to define dating, more than half said it meant ‘to go out with a person of the opposite sex.’ Some defined it as meaning ‘to get to know someone better.’ An informal survey among a group of Christian youths yielded similar results. One 13-year-old boy said: "A date is when you take a girl out to the movies and stay out late and then walk her home."

    A dictionary defines the English word "date" as "a social engagement between two persons of opposite sex." Could this not include having regular conversations with someone? And what about such conversations, or social engagements, over the telephone? A young man named Ivan says: "It is a form of dating, especially if you have a prearranged day and time to call this person and the conversation revolves around personal matters."

    The book The Family Handbook of Adolescence notes: "Boy-girl contact . . . is often conducted via notes, letters, and the telephone. Each of these types of communication is valued [among youths] because it allows intimacy at a distance." Even so, as with any form of dating, serious involvement may develop. Consider a young man named Jack. When he became interested in a young woman as a potential marriage mate, he spent a lot of time talking with her on the telephone. "Getting to know a person over the phone can be done," says Jack. "You can communicate thoughts and even feelings over the phone." Jack and his girlfriend got married. Because of distance, many couples have carried on the bulk of their dating by phone calls and letters!

    The issue, then, isn’t whether you say a couple is simply talking, seeing each other, or dating, but what kind of relationship they are cultivating. And when a boy and a girl have singled each other out, this can at least give the appearance of a budding romance. And often it is more than mere appearance. As teenage writer Jane Rinzler explains in her book Teens Speak Out: "If people like each other . . . they will start seeing each other. Chances are it will start by their talking on the phone maybe once, maybe a few times."

    The

    Dangers of Early Dating

    Now it may be all right for two people to start a romantic relationship as long as they are in a position to pursue marriage. But few teenage couples think in the terms of getting married. According to the book Adolescent Development, by Barbara and Philip Newman, teen dating often serves as a mere "form of recreation," a way to ‘achieve status’ among other youths, and a way to "learn about the opposite sex."

    But as far as Christians are concerned, marriage is sacred, honorable. (Hebrews 13:4) Courtship in any form is therefore serious business—not a form of play. And when one is too young to marry, a close relationship with a member of the opposite sex can all too easily end in bitterness and grief. The Bible puts it this way: "Can a man rake together fire into his bosom and yet his very garments not be burned?"—Proverbs 6:27.

    When Maria was 13 years old, she began experimenting with telephone dates. It was fun for a while. But since she was not old enough to get married, such dating just left her disappointed and frustrated. "Expectation postponed is making the heart sick," says Proverbs 13:12. She also had to deal with the stress of keeping her dating secret from her parents. "Every time the phone rang, I worried that someone else would pick it up—especially my mother. It was embarrassing when she’d ask, ‘Who is this?’ and would hang up because there was no response."

    Even letter writing has its risks. Charlene, for example, developed strong feelings toward an unbeliever. She confesses: "I began writing him, and we have become more than just friends. He’s an alcoholic, but I’m trying my best to help him. Do you think there is any hope of getting him to slow down his drinking?" Charlene’s attempts to play counselor to an alcoholic are ill-advised and unlikely to succeed, however. She could easily end up in a disastrous marriage.—2 Corinthians 6:14.

    Guard

    Yourself With Thinking Ability

    Good advice is given at Proverbs 2:10, 11: "When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you." Young people often allow their emotions to guide their decisions. But by using thinking ability and discernment, you can do much to "remove vexation from your heart, and ward off calamity from your flesh."—Ecclesiastes 11:10.

    Discernment helps you appreciate that you are in "the bloom of youth," a time when sexual feelings and romantic emotions are strong. (1 Corinthians 7:36) Close association with a member of the opposite sex—be it in person, by telephone, or even by letter—tends to fan the flames of passion. Why then single someone out for special attention? True, you may want to learn how to deal with the opposite sex. But you can usually do so by enjoying the association of the opposite sex in group settings. Even then, avoid limiting yourself to a small circle of friends. "Widen out" in your association. (2 Corinthians 6:13) Doing so will minimize the likelihood of developing a romantic involvement.

    Does this mean that you can never talk on the phone with or write to a member of the opposite sex? No. The danger lies in developing an emotional attachment to one person. But take care that you do not hurt someone or get hurt yourself. And if in spite of the best intentions, romantic feelings begin to develop, you may need to back off from the friendship.

    It may also help to talk matters over with a trusted adult, such as one of your parents. (Proverbs 23:26) At first you may feel hesitant or embarrassed about disclosing your feelings. But your parents may understand your feelings better than you think.

    It may be years before you are ready to cultivate a romantic interest in a member of the opposite sex. In the meantime, by showing caution and an unselfish interest in others, you can enjoy balanced relationships with the opposite sex.

    [Footnotes]

    Some of the names have been changed.

    See chapter 30 of Questions Young People Ask—Answers That Work, published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.

    [Pictures

    on page 18]

    Could a telephone conversation be considered a date?
  • yxl1
    yxl1
    When Maria was 13 years old, she began experimenting with telephone dates. It was fun for a while. But since she was not old enough to get married, such dating just left her disappointed and frustrated.

    Jesus! These people are more retarded than I realised!

  • tinkerbell82
    tinkerbell82

    Now i'm speechless.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    If three people text message each other, is that a ménage à trois? If so then maybe I've experienced one! Wow, I'm such a chick magnet and sex maniac!!!

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    When Maria was 13 years old, she began experimenting with telephone dates. It was fun for a while. But since she was not old enough to get married, such dating just left her disappointed and frustrated.

    Jesus! These people are more retarded than I realised!

    She obviously never tried phone sex.

  • yxl1
    yxl1
    She obviously never tried phone sex

    ...or just getting a life

    Drwtsn32, we're from the same TV show! Its such a shame its been cancelled.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    Drwtsn32, we're from the same TV show! Its such a shame its been cancelled.

    I know! I just don't think life's worth living without any new episodes of Family Guy coming out! I just hope another network (perhaps the Cartoon Network) will pick it up and pay for some new episodes.

  • yxl1
    yxl1
    I just don't think life's worth living without any new episodes of Family Guy coming out!

    Well, at least the Season3 DVD set comes out very soon!!

  • blondie
    blondie

    Kid stuff it may be, but I would like to know who my children are calling or e-mailing. First, I would not get my child a cellphone and I would like to know who they will be with, meeting the young people and their parents. This world is too dangerous. After having worked with law enforcement with Internet crimes, I realize the dangers out there.

    Missing girl safe, ex-Marine held

    LEIGH, England (CNN) --A 12-year-old girl has been reunited with her parents after she went missing for four days with a 31-year-old former U.S. Marine who she met on the Internet.

    Police said Wednesday Shevaun Pennington was found on her way back to Britain after she had traveled to continental Europe with Toby Studabaker, who was arrested separately in Germany.

    "I'm obviously very relieved," said Greater Manchester Police Superintendent Peter Mason.

    He said German authorities detained Studabaker in Frankfurt Wednesday for child abduction "under the power of an international arrest warrant sworn out within the Greater Manchester police area."

    A law enforcement source in Britain said authorities "can prove he knew she was 12" but did not say how. That information enabled authorities to get the arrest warrant, the source said.

    Studabaker had told his brother that he believed the girl, Shevaun Pennington, was 19, the brother has said.

    Supt. Mason said Shevaun had split up with Studabaker before traveling back in Britain. "I'm not aware of where they separated. Toby was arrested in Frankfurt and Shevaun is now in this country," Mason said.

    Studabaker did not hand himself in to authorities nor was he arrested at the airport in Frankfurt, Mason said, adding it was not clear how long he was in Germany.

    "Through our investigations, we found out she was coming into Manchester via plane," Mason said. "We knew beforehand she was coming back to this country."

    It was too early to say whether Studabaker will be brought to Britain, but "we'll be looking at bringing him back," Mason said. He said he was not aware if Shevaun had been harmed in any way.

    Mason said he assumed the girl's parents were "great elated" by the news that she was safe and in the country.

    Studabaker's arrest in Frankfurt -- made with the help of German authorities and the FBI -- came after images of child pornography were found on his computer in the United States, a senior investigative source told CNN.

    "It confirmed our worst fears," the source said. "We can prove he knew she was 12."

    The girl telephoned her parents Wednesday morning, saying she was well and not being kept against her will, and was preparing to return, Mason said.

    Joanna Pennington, 42, told reporters her daughter was possibly in love with Studabaker, but said she was not concerned. "I understand that she has got feelings for him, and he may have feelings for her ... I just want her back."

    Family members and police said the pair conducted a year-long relationship in Internet chat rooms, and via e-mails, before Studabaker flew to Europe last weekend to meet her.

    The pair flew from Manchester to Paris on Saturday morning where the trail went cold amid a huge international police search.

    His family said earlier the former Marine had also been in contact, both with them and with the FBI, and told them the girl was unharmed.

    Studabaker was discharged from the Marines just two weeks ago after serving for more than three years. He was a lance corporal based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

    The case had increased concern in Britain about so-called "grooming" by adults who contact children via the Internet.

    Find this article at:
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/07/16/uk.girl.marine

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