Dis/UNITED Kingdom?

by BoogerMan 46 Replies latest social current

  • cofty
    cofty
    devolved powers & laws are one thing, but a national crisis/emergency situation overrides devolved administrations - Booger

    No it doesn't.

    London cannot dictate to the other governments of the UK in matters that are devolved. Do you really think Scotland or NI would stand for their devolution settlements being ripped up without the consent of the majority of the respective populations? That would be the road to breaking up the UK permanently.

  • Simon
    Simon

    London is very very different to some small town in Scotland, it's crazy to have one set of rules for all and imagine it's what is best for both or what will even be workable.

    Even within Scotland, there will be huge differences between different places - lots of different environments and levels of healthcare available.

    This is not a time for governments, they already let things down at the 'federal' level by allowing international visitors to bring the virus to our shores.

    Now it's the time for decisions to be made locally based on local environmental factors and the local healthcare system. Even "Scotland" deciding things is stupid, ministers can't decide what is best for people in each town and city, only the people in them can.

    It doesn't matter how many hospital bed are available nationally - it matters how many are in the hospital that you might have to go to.

    Some places may be opened up and other may have to be under lockdown. It can't be one rule for all or else we'll be going at the speed of the slowest and worst affected areas.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    Nicola Sturgeon doesn't want Boris' new slogan advertised in Scotland.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52605959

    Isolate and protect the most vulnerable and let the fit & healthy resume normal life again. Quarrantining millions of healthy people is mind-blowingly insane!

    If the UK governments (plural!) had implemented strict protective measures for nursing homes right at the outset, how many lives would have been saved? Disgustingly & criminally negligent.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Nursing homes are massively profitable private enterprises. Some owners have been exemplary others have failed.

    Nursing homes are obviously going to be epicentres of infection. It's not clear what exactly ought to have been done.

    Boris' plan for easing restrictions seems sensible. Outside work now, shops open within 3 weeks and restaurants a month after that.

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    We all entered lockdown together but restrictions will be lifted at different rates as the factors involved are different for each nation.

    The R factor in Scotland is higher thus makes sense to maintain current lockdown restrictions.

    I see no issue.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath
    Nursing homes are massively profitable private enterprises.

    yes--if they are full. it doesnt take long with a few empty rooms for the profits to vanish. local authority funding makes sure of that.

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Here in Australia the Prime Minister outlines a broad outline of what is expected during a stage 3 lockdown for the nation .However each state has a Minister that interprets what is essential for that state under those guidelines .

    Some states have far greater infections than other states and so more stricter control is needed , whereas some states with very few infections or even no infections for days , feel they can ease up on restrictions and ease back a bit more

    I don`t see any problems with the way things are handled here .One size doesn`t fit all .Common sense needs to prevail.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    BBC News today =

    NURSING HOMES: "The care sector, for example, believes more should have been done to protect care homes, given the rising number of deaths that are being reported - there are indications that these account for HALF of all deaths now." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52611507

    Will anyone be held accountable for this avoidable catastrophe?

  • cofty
    cofty

    How would you have avoided it Boogy?

    One nursing home I heard about has made all their staff stay onsite for weeks. Good effort but simply impossible for most workers who have families.

    PPE is in international short supply with millions of items required by NHS daily and many products by new manufacturers having to be destroyed for not meeting safety standards.

    A virus LOVES an environment like a care home and many residents of care homes are very fragile with comorbidities. Care home workers are not trained in strict barrier nursing like nurses are and the homes are not set up for that anyway. It's inevitable - as demonstrated all over the world - that there will be huge numbers of deaths in care homes.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    Trillions of £/$ have been spent to legally impose "protection" on healthy people, while little or no safety precautions were instituted immediately to protect the very ones who were almost guaranteed to be killed by Covid 19. Many of those deaths could & should have been prevented. It isn't rocket science.

    Training in "strict barrier"? Isn't personal hygiene the primary barrier which prevents infection & transmission.

    The most draconian laws and regulations in history were imposed on the UK public, but nursing homes simply "banned visitors"? That worked well, didn't it?

    No doubt we'll be seeing "new regulations" for such establishments being implemented before the next 'flu season hits the U.K. Lock the stable-door.....

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