# Spacy question - ISS and gyros - what u think?

by MrRoboto 28 Replies latest social current

• ##### waton

The rotating gyros should not respond in orientation to the rotating earth below, or the rotation of the station, if it synchronized with it's orbit every ~90 minutes, and shows the same side to the earth all the time as does the moon. Rotating objects keep their orientation in orbit, see Uranus' barrel orbit.

JWorg television showed the Earth background rotating clockwise at one time, but that was as seen from the space station, that orbits the in same direction than the earth rotates , but ~16 times faster.

liked the nutation of the video gyroscopes, the spinning Earth wobbles too, ~every Jubilee cycle. F.Franz would be pleased.

• ##### Anony Mous

@MrRoboto: The ISS is in Low Earth Orbit, it's not really in "space". It's similar to throwing a baseball, if you throw it fast enough and there is no atmospheric drag it will either escape Earth's gravity or it will come back to Earth as Earth's gravity attracts it. The ISS goes just fast enough that it doesn't quite escape the Earth's gravity well but not slow enough that it just comes crashing down, it does need the occasional boost though as it is slowly falling back into the Earth.

You can see the effect (which is what Einstein described really) if you have a trampoline or similar object, put a bowling ball in the middle, the trampoline canvas (space-time if you're talking about this in three dimensions) will sag and create a well (gravity well for objects in space-time). Now shoot a marble in the well, shoot it too hard and it will escape the well and go off somewhere, or you'll see it scoots around the object until it "falls" into the bowling ball.

As far as its relative speed, that depends on your frame of reference which is concept from basic physics really. From our frame of reference, it travels at about 8 kilometers per second so it travels around the earth every 1.5 hours.

@Atomant: The ISS is ~240km away from us, it's also pretty big, given you have a direct view, you can indeed see it with a small zoom lens, typical camera zoom lenses can easily enlarge a picture 10-50 times, hundreds to hundreds of thousands of times when you use telescopes, so it's basically (optically) the same as saying "why can I see a thing that's 2.4km away". Same goes for Mars, Saturn and Jupiter, those planets are huge, as in, several times larger than Earth, hence we can see them with the naked eye even. Things near to or beyond Jupiter are a bit harder because they're not that large and relatively dim, hence why we didn't know about them until the Renaissance or later.

• ##### atomant

the iss 278km to max of 460km sorry.

• ##### atomant

l seriously suggest people have a look at this site anders explains in detail why man cant travel in space and why the iss is fake heiwaco.tripod.com/moontravel2.htm

• ##### waton

Mr. Roboto, since you seem to spread havoc for wt here, , here is a

wt question for you: if the gyro spins a slow 100 revolution per minute, how many is that per day, tip: it is in the wt bible. twice.

• ##### _Morpheus

We have a winner!!!!! I knew there would be at least moron who thought the iss was fakedðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

• ##### atomant

Morpheus lm just putting it out there for those interested in unravelling the truth.After all that's why this site was set up in the first place.lts not about whos right or wrong its about collectively offering opinions then debating.There are no winners although some in here think otherwise.

• ##### kairos

How does one see an object traveling at 17,500mph and 250 miles high?
With the unaided eye?

The sun shines it's light on it, right? Looks like star, yeah.
So we see the reflection off a small object that's not designed to reflect light to earth...

• ##### _Morpheus

The truth is the iss is real.

I have seen the iss with my own eyes through a telescope and equatorial telescope mount.

Its astounding the level of stupidity.

• ##### kairos

what else can you see from 250 miles away?

stationary object that is ISS sized.