Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

by Roger Kirkpatrick 75 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vanderhoven7

    The faithful slave controversy

  • Vanderhoven7

    I'm looking for a recent WT quotation that says

    Trust in the FS is essential to Salvation

    And another that says if we don't trust the slave we are not trusting Jehovah


  • Vanderhoven7

    Here are a couple I found

    JWs are not following the Bible; they are following men.

    Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

    Psa 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

    Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. 9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

    Contradiction Anyone?

    "Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?" Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27

    "The plain truth is that we cannot say that we trust in Jehovah if we do not trust in his earthly representatives - those whom Jehovah trusts. Today Jehovah leads the earthly part of his organization by means of "the faithful and discreet slave." The "Watchtower 2022 Feb p.4

    "There are many reasons to have complete trust in the slave class. First and foremost, Jesus has appointed them over all his precious "belongings." This is a clear indication that he has complete trust in them." Organized to Do Jehovah's Will (2005) p.18

    The truth is that JW’s faith is in men for their salvation…not the Bible. You see the Bible has lost any corrective power for Jehovah's Witnesses. The 10 men in New York can correct their understanding of what the Bible teaches…but the Bible cannot correct them contrary to what these men teach.

  • waton

    From the Opening Post:

    the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect

    Right, wt writers expected the date, again and again, never happened as they prophesied. unapologetic, evil.

    why were wt's 1919 appointment claims presumptuously? Because the very same article admits that the inspection to determine whether the first feature was carried out properly and the subsequent appointment over all the master’s belongings is yet future!

    Yeah, the appointment in 1919 could not possibly be based on their record, their 1919 doctrines. wt writers then still stubbornly insisted 'the world had ended [ In 1914 ], and that the generation that started then, millions will never die." ***

    that is the oldest lie, warmed over by wt.

    ** proclaimers book, with the 2 witness rule, advertising signs in in 2 languages on 2 continents

  • menrov

    Parables are lessons for life, meaning that it can be applied always. Therefore WT can abuse this principle and state that some parables are (like) prophecies.

    Why would Jesus say this parable if it was a prophecy for a time when his audience would not be alive?

    Religious organizations are for their own benefit and the Bible can be used to their benefit. Just show me one organization where their leaders live a humble life, and work for their own money and pay taxes?

    They all love power and to receive admiration.

  • Fisherman
    Does a slave typically demand obedience from those it serves, as the Governing Body demands from Jehovah’s Witnesses?

    That is the flaw in your logic. Obviously, if they are bullying the church or their conduct is otherwise unchristian it would challenge any delegated authority they have over church. Compare what Jesus said about himself: “The son of man came to minister.” and the voice from heaven: “Listen to him.” validating that authority.

    Somebody is directing the Church, God through JC vicariously by means of the FDS —given that the appointment of the gb really is the FDS. So GB claim of authority doesn’t disqualify them —given they really are the FDS.

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