by Jrjw 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sparrowdown

    The "this generation" is now a perpetual generation a Buzz Lightyear of generations "to infinity and beyond."

    End of discussion.

  • LongHairGal


    A quick answer to your question about the 1995 thing is: the religion said for the longest time that the generation alive in 1914 would live to see the end of this system.

    In 1995, the religion came out with a new and vague explanation of what generation was supposed to mean. Most people believe a generation means twenty years. The religion tried to say some gobbledygook about how it could mean more than that (don’t remember the exact words). When I was at the meeting and heard this I felt sick and knew they were just making it up as they go along.

    They have since come out with more overlapping generation teachings that strain credibility.

  • bennyk
  • Good JW
    Good JW

    Sorry, can't help much - I used to sleep during the (more than usual) bull crap...

  • moreconfusedthanever

    Sparrowdown you are hilarious. I love the Buzz Light-year generation. Lol.

  • Hairtrigger

    Now if it was me I’d play it safe and state that “The words were “gene ration” and was misprinted by those who translated the words from Greek. So this “gene ration shall not pass away till my ....” Boom! Takes care of any misconceptions that may arise !!!

  • waton
    Allow this as ole Franz to explain it: pale emperor. (eminence grise)

    thanks for putting up that witness video.

    Here is what D.S is saying.

    ole Franz, not the oldest, but 21 in 1914 died in 1992. so an older one might have died in 94.

    Another, now living, but older Franz-ike anointed, overlapping at 21 with the original *** ole franz would be ~48 today, live to 2074. note!!!

    the generation stops at the start of the Great Tribulation. the second groups timeline of the chart, ends at the line, before all these things occur, really get going! but remember,

    Jesus said the generation would not pass before all these things, the GT, the big A,- occur, in other words the generation would pass, die later! so,

    even without the overlap, that anointed generation is bogus, because what jesus said. so,

    if not the anointed sheep, is the generation the Other Sheep? no, that could not be it either, -because

    Jesus said the generation would pass away or die, but not until--- and of course wt teaches that millions of OS now living will never die.

    thank you for putting your foot in that, for the record, david.

    *** pun intended, because he was an original.

  • venus

    All these repeated readjustment on the word “generation” shows that Jesus never spoke such a sentence (found in Mathew 24:34) because the following verses he purportedly said was about Noah’s flood which has never occurred [Even if Noah’s ark is scientifically possible with a bigger vessel that takes care of 8.7 million species, theologically and logically it is not possible for God to handle a situation that puts greater hardship on the righteous than on the wicked who died in a few minutes after getting drowned in the water]. (Mathew 24:36-39)

    This means the sentence “this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Mathew 24:34) is from the thoughtless writer, not from Jesus.

    Like any other religion and its scripture, Bible too right only in its essence, not in details. In essence all religions and scriptures are true because they say God exists, and mechanism of ‘reaping what one sows’ too exists. Hence clinging on to details would land anyone into trouble.

    Interestingly, Christendom's theologians say gospel of Mathew was written after 70 CE which means after the destruction of temple. Hence writer took advantage of the already-happened-event putting it into a prophetic mode.

    Trinitarian verse that was put into Jesus' mouth (Mathew 28:19) shows Gospel of Mathew was written even much later because doctrine of trinity was a later development.

  • Jrjw

    So basically the whole generation thing they're teaching now is a lie since it happened in Jesus' day(or generation). I don't know how they can change a generation from 20 to 80 years when if I was with my mam and daughter we'd say we were 3 generation's.

  • venus

    Interestingly, Bible itself gives proofs that much of the things Jesus said and did was imagined by writers. For example, it is reportedly told by Jesus: "No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.” (John 3:13) It means only Jesus who descended from heaven has gone into heaven, no one else has gone into heaven! Jesus ascended into heaven at the end of his ministry, after his death. Hence how could he say he has ascended into heaven at the start of his ministry?"

    It means writers just thought what could have Jesus spoken or done if he were treading on earth and wrote them down. This could be true with rest of the bible writers too. That is why we find in one place God said this and that, yet in other place He says he did not say so (Jeremiah 7:22; 8:8)

    Destruction of Jerusalem temple more than once, and great fire at the Alexandrian Library destroyed scrolls and other valuable writings. This enabled writers to manipulate their writings.

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