What the new JW light position really is 👍 (page 4)

peacefulpete

Slimboyfat....If I was passionate about saving the whales and spent years actively and financially supporting a 'Save the Whales' organization only to learn they in fact were not what they appeared to be. My money had been only spent on real estate, self-promotion and colorful brochures. My time and efforts had not saved a single whale. Would I not be the greatest of hypocrites and charlatans if I subsequently continued promoting the organization and recruited others to donate to it.

How much more would that be the case if lives were involved.

I do not pretend that the WT or the Christian Scientists or the Hari Krishnas, or any of the world's many delusional or controlling sects, are going anywhere. I can only control where I'm going.

JohnR1975

My problem is that I just don't get how any human being with a decent dose of comprehension and compassion and a sense of justice could be anything "light" in this world we live in. I was JW "heavy,"

This is true of every single religion. There are some heavy into it and they say to those who are light into it “My problem is that I just don't get how any human being with a decent dose of comprehension and compassion and a sense of justice could be light into this religion”

Lutheran lite, episcopalian lite, Presbyterian lite....I can see. But JW lite?

Islam light, Jewish light, Hindu light, Buddhist light?

Think about evolution light? Or apathetic light? Then there is agnostic light?

whatever your beliefs are I think it’s the correct view the course of wisdom to be aware you may not be correct about what you believe?

Sea Breeze

They do shadow birthday celebrations and ignore most of the directions from the fat old men in upstate NY.

Wow. It's psychologically worse now than it used to be. If you are a kid growing up in a family "strong in the truth", and you see elders being hypocritical; that would serve to wake up kids even faster than before when everyone believed the GB spoke with the voice of God.

When you wake up at 13 or 14 in a family that is "strong in the truth", there is literally no where to go but the street, especially if you are a kid who is not afraid of confrontation and who likes to talk alot.

Kids who talk too much don't make it far in a cult. May God protect them as they try to navigate the complete chaos they were born into.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

You are right and it’s true that kids who talk too much don’t make it in a cult!

I was neither a ‘kid” nor a born-in and I remember asking innocent but intelligent questions when I was new.. I was then put on the shit list. It also didn’t help that I wouldn’t stop working full-time to ‘pioneer’ and do favors for Users there.🤣 Just attempted exploitation pure and simple. I should have known at that point it was downhill all the way and a total waste of my time and energy.. I could’ve have exited the JWs sooner.

I can laugh about this now because it’s many years ago and I’m now retired. Although it’s a sad reality that some born-in kid who wants out of the Witness religion can very well end up in the street. The authorities should be more aware of this very ugly fact in this secretive group.

Mikejw

Most religions and even non religious beliefs like evolution have 90%+ members in the lite category.

JWs used to have minority in the lite categories and majority heavily into it.

i suspect that was true with Catholics and every type of Protestant or other belief system in years gone by.

These days even Muslim and every other belief system including atheism most people are in the lite categories of their belief system.

there has been a big change in the JWs since Covid, and since the GB keep saying “we don’t know”

then the GB have stated they are not infallible.

this is basically admitting that what they currently believe may be wrong.

so really all JWs should be JW lite and say to themselves we may be right about this or that but in the other hand we may not have the correct understanding of it.

I myself am in this category. I’m pretty sure the GB are wrong about lots of things but I don’t have the presumption to say I have the correct understanding of it.

Mikejw

It’s very easy to bash other belief systems. I could bash atheists all day long but then again they could bash those who believe in God.

Those who believe in the trinity get basked by those who think Jesus is Gods son and vice versa.

It’s just as easy to bash JWs as it is every other belief system.

I think k the best way is to decide for yourself if you think the universe had intelligent design or not. If not then be an evolutionist.

if you believe the universe and everything in was designed then you have to decide if that designer had anything to do with the Bible. Then you have to decide if Jesus was just an ordinary man or if he was Gods firstborn son, who he claimed to be.

Then you really have to be honest and say there are so many interpretations of the scriptures we just don’t know. We can do our best to try and guess but it is very presumptuous to say that I have the correct interpretation and others are wrong.

this is the way JW lite seems to be going. I love the sound of the promises in the Bible but let’s be honest nobody really has the entire truth about the scriptures.

Im staying physically in JWs and find it very interesting studying the Bible with the congregation every week. But always think we may not have the correct understanding of these scriptures.

Too many people like Lloyd Evans for example bash other people’s belief systems without saying this is the correct belief system that other people could bash.

TonusOH

Mikejw: Most religions and even non religious beliefs like evolution have 90%+ members in the lite category.

I don't see how this is the case. It probably should be, with what little we obviously know. But that doesn't mean we should park ourselves in a lane and follow the instructions we're not sure we believe in and cannot corroborate.

Instead of 'heavy' or 'light', try 'be true to yourself.'

Anony Mous

The fact you think that any religion has similarities to JW when it comes to activity and expectations indicates you clearly have no clue how real religious groups function.

JW is a high control cult, the fact you think you’re getting away with something just indicates you know that what you’re doing isn’t normal. What will happen when a CO finds out and threatens your little gang of elders with removal, you will try to clean up your act, at least one or two of you will become traitors to your friends and you will become just like every other elder or you may be labeled an apostate, and people, including your family will reject you.

Can you claim independence from the organization on anything, from how to operate the building to doctrinal matters? Can you have female elders or just a female or a visiting pastor giving a sermon? Because all those things happen in “real” religions.

Can you go back into the office and review your red folders? Can you publish those who were suspected of child abuse and report them to the authorities without going through the organization? In any congregation there are statistically at least 2 active pedophiles, if your congregation has existed for any number of years you should have several recorded.

Can you go to the media and apologize on behalf of JW for the heartache and the suicides your congregation previously caused?

Will you say from the pulpit the GB could be wrong and they are not infallible and you disagree with them on some things!? Can you critique the GB, criticize the disfellowshipping system, because that is what I did when I gained my position and guess what happened…

Mikejw

My definition of light or heavy when it comes to your beliefs is how sure you are.

anyone who is absolutely sure they are correct in their beliefs about how the universe originated is in the heavy categor.

if you think I lean towards this belief system but are open to the possibility you may not be 100% correct then you are in the light category.

i think most JWs and in fact most people in religions and non religion beliefs systems are in the light category.

even the most ardent atheists have doubts that just maybe there was intelligent design involved somewhere along the line

liam

They do shadow birthday celebrations and ignore most of the directions from the fat old men in upstate NY.

They are basically just Teaching their children to be Liars and Hypocrites. This is how evil people are made!

The next generation of Jehovah's Witnesses will be the worse of the worse. Leading double lives in Society will be normal for them.

Elderberry is a good example of a person who leads a double life. He is one you don't want to be friends with because he can't be trusted.

He doesn't have the Moral norms that are accepted standards or ways of behaving that most people in a community agree upon that guide individuals on what is considered right or wrong society.

He is the King David of modern times.

What the new JW light position really is 👍

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