DISFELLOWSHIPPING, How bad is it really?

by pistolpete 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • pistolpete

    I think that not shunning children for the selfish reason that you might need their help when you get old isn't valid .

    You choose to have children , they don't choose to be born or to have you as parents . What emotional damage does it do to those children to have their parents turn their backs on them ?

    I always wanted to say this, but just didn't know how to express it.

    Yes I agree, that Good parents that love their children NEVER EXPECT THE CHILDREN to CARE FOR THEM WHEN THEY GET OLD.

    Couples that want Children should have them BECAUSE, they want to share the love they have for each other by raising their own flesh and blood. And hope their children grow up to enjoy the life they've been given.

  • LongHairGal


    You got a totally wrong impression. I certainly did NOT mean that people should have children for the purpose of taking care of them in their old age! 🙄 I’m sorry you didn’t comprehend the point I was trying to make.

    Shunning is a tragedy and it is unnatural. It is opposite of human nature where a parent loves their children. Generally speaking, most people care about their elderly parents. Whether or not they can actually ‘take care of them’ depends on finances and circumstances. But, at the very LEAST, they would be in contact with each other..However, in the JW religion, attitudes are unnatural and some misguided people there think otherwise.

    JWs are notorious for the idea that somebody else there is going to ‘care for them’. (This attitude also extends to JWs who study with needy people and make the claim that it is a ‘brotherhood’ and they will be ‘taken care of’ as well as people not getting a decent job and preparing for their future who also believe this.). Meanwhile, the JW religion is not a charity and gives NOTHING to anyone..The answer to this problem is to privately go around with an envelope and corner people for money.

    Not trying to derail the thread about disfellowshipping, but that’s the point I was trying to make. Not the wrong assumption that people should have children to take care of them later on.. Really! I doubt most delighted new parents of a baby would be thinking this!

    I hope nobody else got this wrong impression.

  • pistolpete
    stan livedeath
    I spent sunday with my son and his family. He was d/f 11 years ago

    Stan-----YOUR A GOOD MAN!

  • LoveUniHateExams

    It depends on the circumstances, I guess.

    I was lucky - me and my dad both left at the same time, and I have no other family members in.

    But I hear what point you and others are making. Shunning is a practice that is meant to cause damage. Otherwise the Watchtower wouldn't do it.

  • pistolpete

    You got a totally wrong impression. I certainly did NOT mean that people should have children for the purpose of taking care of them in their old age! 🙄 I hope nobody else got this wrong impression. I’m sorry you didn’t comprehend the point I was trying to make.

    LHG I didn't get that impression!-----I don't think anyone else did either!

    It just might be a matter of Poe's law where it may seem the author meant this or that.

    I wouldn't worry about it if I were you


  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath


    Stan-----YOUR A GOOD MAN!

    whoa--steady on mate--i have my reputation to think of.

  • jhine

    Yes LGH , like Pete l meant no offence . However it would seem that JWs don't plan for old age and do seem to expect their children to take care of them . Which seems silly as everyone is encouraged to take low paid jobs or part time jobs and probably struggle to take care of themselves let alone other people.


  • Fadeaway1962

    My nephew was disfellowshiped more than 10 years ago for something he never did , the police looked into the allegation against him , their was no case against him (only found this out a few months ago)

    My sister was diagnosed with secondary cancer just over two years ago and we managed to contact him to let him know (necessary family business) and he called and spoke to his father and he said that he was disfellowshiped and they can't speak to him until he returns to Jehovah.

    Before she lost her fight against the cancer ,she made it aware to our mother that she wanted to know how he was doing and if she was a granny , so I called him but because of that phone call with his father he wanted nothing to do with them and wouldn't even use the word mother called her by her name.

    While she was in the hospice hours before she passed her husband tried to find there only child on Facebook , but didn't even recognize him when looked up his name and was told by another family member that was him .

    But it was too late at that time .

    Is it really BAD absolutely.

  • LongHairGal


    I read this experience on Reddit. I happen to know of two instances where JW children were compelled to move out of their homes. In one instance, the teenager was ordered out of his home. In the other instance, I believe the girl wanted out. From what I know, both these people turned into happy successful adults who never went back to the religion.

    In other instances where JW children who don’t want the religion end up out of their homes, I am sure in some instances they end up receiving charity for a time from churches of Christendom who actually HAVE programs to help the needy like soup kitchens, etc.! This is in sharp contrast to the JWs who have nothing of the sort last I heard. (Anybody who knows differently please correct me.). And BTW those food boxes last year were a government distribution given to many organizations..so they can’t claim that.

    Anyway, the whole gist of it is that disfellowshipping and ousting of a minor child with no way to fend for themselves is a cruel tragedy!

  • pistolpete


    This is in sharp contrast to the JWs who have nothing of the sort last I heard.

    They do have a program specifically for low income-black - American- families. CHECK THIS OUT!


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