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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
by jwundubbed 36 Replies latest social humour
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Sea Breeze
The ultimate Chicken and Egg Scenario is the replicating cell. The hundreds of processes like countless chemical reactions, information storage & replication, food and waste processes etc. has been likened to be of similar complexity to a modern city. All of these thousands of parts and functions as well as the information instructions must be present at the same time in order for the cell to function and reproduce.
The non-Christian physicist Paul Davies points out:
āWe now know that the secret of life lies not with the chemical ingredients as such, but with the logical structure and organisational arrangement of the moleculesā¦. Like a supercomputer, life is an information processing systemā¦. It is the software of the living cell that is the real mystery, not the hardware.ā
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Jeffro
See Breeze:
The non-Christian physicist Paul Davies
Fallacious appeal to authority (on top of the purported ploy that heās ānon-Christianā), since he isnāt a biologist. Analogies about āinformationā are not evidence of ādesignā, and these chemical reactions in biological systems happen every second of every day without any need of magical sky friends. Systems become more complex over time rather than more simple so none of this is particularly compelling, and it remains a tedious argument from ignorance at its core.
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Sea Breeze
@Jeffro,
these chemical reactions in biological systems happen every second of every day without any need of magical sky friends.
How is your statement different than saying a Boeing 747 in the sky functions just fine without any engineers on board?
What came first, the engineeers or the 747 ?
it remains a tedious argument from ignorance at its core.
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Jeffro
How is your statement different than saying a Boeing 747 making a trans-atlantic flight never needed any engineering because there aren't any engineers on board?
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More argument from ignorance. I know you think you said something clever, but Boeings have never been observed to self-replicate. Because the premise of your tedious analogy assumes your conclusion, it is logically invalid.
Come back when you have evidence for an infinitely complex sky friend that just always existed. And then you can try to justify the inherent special pleading. š¤£
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Sea Breeze
@Jeffro
chemical reactions in biological systems happen every second of every day without any need of magical sky friends.
So you change your point on functionality which you can't possibly logically defend to self-replication, which you imagine that you can. Yet, to self-replicate, you need all the functionality that you just dismissed with the wave of your hand!
Very illogical.
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Jeffro
Poor Sea Breeze simply ignores the work of actual biologists who have already established that cells could have developed from simpler forms that became more complex over time. Instead, the creationist, as usual, expects non-biologists to be experts in the field, while maintaining the contradictory belief that an infinitely complex deity just always existed. š¤¦āāļø
The argument from ignorance is tedious and unsophisticated. Try something else.
