Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed 36 Replies latest social humour

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  ThomasMore

  Jeffro - It was intended to be prattle so I am glad you got it, it seems that you took it personal.

  I am a double-hater. I recognize that we no longer get quality candidates offered for the Presidential race. As a former JW, I recognize dribble/spin/BS as soon as it begins to flow - on both sides of the aisle. For those who don't demand substance from their leaders, that is a choice, but a poor one I think.

  Here is my take on where we are:

  There are approx 334 million people in this great country.

  Approximately 45% are 30-65 years old (around 150 million)

  With such a large pool to choose from, how did we find ourselves with the current 2 candidates? The only answer I can float is that Americans no longer recognize meaningful substance and they don't demand it from their leaders. Even if I agree with some policies of both, I think the character of our candidates is lacking - both candidates.
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  ThomasMore

  In case it matters, in Webster's, chicken comes before egg, by many pages...
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  Jeffro

  ThomasMore:

  Jeffro - It was intended to be prattle so I am glad you got it, it seems that you took it personal.

  What possible reason would I have for taking it personal(ly)? Biased media took a cheap shot at a politician in a foreign country, and you followed suit. It’s nothing new and not remotely interesting. (I do hope you realise the US is not actually the centre of the universe).
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  ThomasMore

  ...and yet you did take it personally. Now you have turned it into a Nationalist issue - a leap to be sure. Everything OK Jeffro?
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  Grandjean

  Dear Friends.

  Life emerged 4 billion years ago and the first "egg" was the bacteria, example Stromatolite. Think about it, 3.8 to 4 billion years ago. Just after the "creation" of this planet Earth in the solarsystem within our Galaxy called the Milky way. ( Radius: 52,850 light years, Age:13.61 billion years. quote) in a Universe 15 billion years old.

  Within this Universe only 5% matter and 95% unknown "dark matter". "Dark matter makes up about 27% of the universe. Dark energy makes up roughly 68% of the universe. We don't know much about dark energy either, but we do know there is a lot of it" ? (quote).
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  jwundubbed

  I just looked at that painting on Wikipedia and he certainly appears to have a navel.

  I don't know what I don't know. The idea that the painting did not have a navel on Adam was on a Trivia TV show. It seems weird that they would get that wrong... but maybe there was more to the trivia that I didn't catch. Anyway the idea that Adam and Eve and all the animals were created rather than born, still makes me wonder why no one tries to use that as an argument for why the chicken came first... from A religious point of view.

  I would be amazed at how many semantic jerks we have in this community, but as often as this group debates so many things about the tiniest details, it isn't actually surprising. And for those of you who feel that any religious point of view is moot to the argument because of Science!... I see your moot point and raise you the moot point of making a Science! answer in a Creation! conversation. Moot meet moo.
  
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  Jeffro

  ThomasMore:

  VP Harris provides the philosophical answer: "So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time ...And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children."

  Relevance to chicken and eggs: Zero. You posted irrelevant politically motivated nonsense.

  Here is my take on where we are:
  There are approx 334 million people in this great country.

  Relevance to chickens and eggs: Zero. You explicitly made it a nationalist issue.

  Now you have turned it into a Nationalist issue - a leap to be sure.

  You brought up an irrelevant nationalist issue and now you’re complaining about being called out on it. You are not OK.
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  Jeffro

  jwundubbed:

  Anyway the idea that Adam and Eve and all the animals were created rather than born, still makes me wonder why no one tries to use that as an argument for why the chicken came first... from A religious point of view.

  Various creationists have posited that the fully formed chicken was made first. But the more astute (but not very) creationists are forced to acknowledge that chickens as we know them were domesticated from a different species, so they (the creationists, not the chickens) say a different bird of the same ‘kind’ (a nonsense term with no distinct meaning in taxonomy) was fully formed but the chicken egg came before the domesticated chicken.
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  TonusOH

  jwundubbed: makes me wonder why no one tries to use that as an argument for why the chicken came first...

  For the creationist, the answer is pretty obvious: God made the first chicken. I guess they could theorize whether God created eggs which hatched into chickens, but that doesn't seem to be what the Genesis account describes.

  For the non-creationist, it's something of a thought experiment or a way to describe situations where the starting point isn't quite clear.
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  ThomasMore

  Just wow Jeffro. Take a breath and sit down.