The wording in the subject-line is taken from a “Bible Research”-thread, started by MDS on Feb 3, 2000 (see link below). It dealt with the WTS as the “faithful and discreet slave”. The reason why I take this part of the original thread to the main-forum is, that it brought back to my mind some questions, that I have never been able to answer. And I hope that you may be able to help me!
It’s a question regarding the 144.000 anointed-teaching. MDS’ post made me think: If there were literally hundreds of thousands of christians, that died in the “ten persecutions” during emperor Nero’s time, were they not of the anointed? If the historical records show, that there have been several hundreds of thousands christians through the years, that were willing to die for their faith, the WT-claim, that the “high calling” was closed in 1935 – as the total of 144.000 anointed since Jesus’ and the apostles days was reached by then - is proved ad absurdum.
Unless of course – unless, as the WTS claims, these christians were not true christians or real anointed christians. But how could anyone determine that today? And how could the first christians "limit" their preaching and baptizing so the total of 144.000 would not be reached until 1935 C.E. (BTW - they did not even know about the 144.000-limit until the Revelation was presented to John at the end of the first century)
Besides the WT-chronology, that has been proven to build on warm air only, this – as I see it as a JW - is a serious problem for the WT-teaching of the 144.000 (and here especially the close of the high calling in 1935).
Does anybody know sources that can tell the circa-numbers of true / professed christians that have lived and died for their faith in the first 3 centuries?
Is that a problem for others than me? Tell me how you solved that problem or why it maybe is/was no problem for you!
PS: Sorry if I bring up an "old" issue, that has been discussed on the board before. But I’m only halfway in digging up the gold that has been posted on this board through the months by you “odtimers”...
So, please be patient, if we newbies find something that for us is, hmm – should I call it "new light"...?!
PPS: You can read the complete original thread at this link:
edited for a typing-error in the subject-line