So it's OK for you to insult people like Francois but you don't like being insulted yourself.
Mr Ged, me and Frank have tallied back and forth at times in jest...what I said to him was NOT an insult and if you read his post, his reply was a jest right back and he took it exactly as I dealt it. Tell tale sign? The tongue out smiley at the end of his post. I mean, I'm quite sure that's Frank's angle...care to chime in Frank?
You have yet to demonstrate that the individuals you named did their work _because_ they believed in God; perhaps they believed in God simply because, at that time, pretty much everyone believed in God. Nor did you tell me what you know about Mr. Kelvin and his estimates for the age of the Earth.
I don't have to demonstrate ANYTHING. I posted those individuals who are known for their integrity to science and their highly qualified credentials while at the same time believing in God.
Who gives a crap about what Kelvin hypothesised? Every single one of those men were wrong in something, and their scientific disciplines were ALL further refined and defined by their post understudies.
However, the original question I raised is whether Geology (note the capital G - that means the modern scientific field of Geology) is consistent with a Noachian Flood. I argued that the modern field of Geology is absolutely inconsistent with the idea of a flood. And it is. You have presented a list of names of people who have degrees in geology perhaps, and who have written scientific papers, and, who, you claim believe in a flood or at least Creation.
Please note, my area of pertinent interest is NOT Geology. I really have NO interest in that science at all. I asked if you would like well qualified individuals that I knew of who were Geologists and Bible believers and I did so. Each and every one of them can be researched as they are not just CHUMPS. Geology is no different than any other science. There are believers and unbelievers. Simple.
Very nice but absolutely dishonest (or stupid - you take your pick) - now your task is to produce papers written by these people in professional Geology publications that make the case for the flood - or which base their conclusions on the idea of a Noachain flood about 4000 years ago.
Right. That's YOUR task. I have no reason to defend my position to the likes of you. You have more than aptly shown what type of a debater you are...so, I gave you the names, you do the homework.
Only if you can do that can you establish that the modern field of Geology considers the flood to be a credible possibility. Otherwise all you have shown is that some people can get degrees in a field and still not understand that field - and we all know that.
Your what I call a blah blah blah.
For example, I know personally an organic chemist who writes for one of the Creationist outfits. One of the people you cite works for the Geoscience Research Institute - a well known Creationist outfit that has zero scientific credibility. Another is at Bryan College which is Christian college.
More blah blah blah. Words of slight and defaming with NOTHING to back them up.
To argue that these people are part of the scientific field of Geology is nonsensical.
Oh, just because YOU say so. Oh shit, the doctor has spoken.
Actually you are making a very common logical mistake - the resort to authority - except those you resort to have no credibility in Geology.
Oh sure, make up something AFTER I come up with the goods. Funny you didn't have that answer BEFORE I listed the names. Actually, I believe it is you that is dodging the bullet of embarrassment.
Of cousre, you'll argue that mainstream Geology is miseld.
Now he can even say what I'm going to say before I say it. As I said before, I couldn't care less about Geology. So me argiung the gory details is moot.
Well, whether it is or it isn't, mainstream Geology is the scientific field of Geology and it rejects the flood.
Some Geologists do and some don't. You choose one, I choose the other, Big deal.
Totally and unequivocally. It is only your distance from even the semblance of educated thought that make syou unable to distinguish between having a PhD and being credible. That isn't an insult by the way.
No it's a blatant lie. So you're a liar now. Doesn't surprise me at all.
You have demonstrated precisely nothing and you still haven't told me how Jangaroos got to Australia.
New species?
Edited by - pomegranate on 23 October 2002 20:14:19
