Public opinion on the issue of Iraq???

by Celtic 55 Replies latest jw friends

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    Thanks siegswife for providing that list. I always get a chuckle out of the people who use the "Saddam kills his own people" reason as a valid excuse for the US going into Iraq. Besides the fact that the US has done the same thing, they have turned a blind eye to other nations that have done the same thing (including Iraq at one time). Don't get me wrong; I hate Saddam as much as the next guy and I'd like to see him go as much as I wanted to see Miloshevic go, but he does not present a real threat to US security (mearly hating the US is not a valid enough excuse). Scott Ritter(see: http://truthout.com/docs_02/07.25A.wrp.iraq.htm), former chief weapons inspector for the UN (and an ex- US marine, so if anything he'd have a pro- American bias), says that Saddam does not have the capability to have Weapons of Mass Destruction, since he was disarmed of 95% of his weapons at the time of the inspectors leaving (which the US requsted, BTW. Iraq did not kick them out). Iraq has said they will let inspectors back in, the US should go with this plan. Only if Iraq is being severely uncooperative should action be taken by the international community (and people seem to keep forgetting that Saddam is not well liked in the Middle East, so if he really were a threat, the Saudi's, Iranians and Kuwaitis would be first on board to go after him, because he would be a threat to them too, as he has been in the past).

    What basically irritates me I guess, is that the US is pretending to be some kind of "good guy", out to save the world from Saddam. This is all about controlling the Iraqi oil market for the US. The US is sending a message to Mid East oil countries on what could happen to them if they try to screw up the oil market like Iraq has been doing. The US & Britain say that they will "present their case" in the near future (admitting that their stupid, unproven or irrelevant assertions need butressing). If they can make the case that Saddam really a threat, I'll be the first to cheer the troops on. But if the best they can come up with is "he gases his people", after we applauded Gen. Suharto in Indo-China for doing the same thing, then we can add yet one more reason to the "why the hate us" list.

    I say take out Saddam by paying off people to assisinate him, if necessary. Even if they could prove that he has WMD and all that, they should try to take the guy out with as little force as necessary (I'm sure you can find Iraqis who hate Saddam who'd like to see him go, even in his close circle). We've already helped to kill enough Iraqis with the sanctions in place, let's try to prevent more bloodshed.

    Edited by - crownboy on 10 September 2002 14:6:8

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    Lisa seems to be supporting the United Nations as the policing body of the world and egging on the fullfilment of watchtower prophecy that religion would be outlawed in the fianl days......

  • LDH
    LDH

    LOL @ Kelsey.

    Naaah I just think they are UN sanctions, let the UN enforce them.

    Lisa

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    Lisa I did'nt say that I totally disagreed with you-

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    As my dub mother said this weekend: "Why does the US give aid to anyone? We have people here who need help. We could lower taxes and then no one would have to get any kind of aid."

    When I said "Huh?!", she said that giving aid to anyone was a waste of time.

    Her lack of understanding of "humanitarian" aid is astonishing. Humanitarian aid means many things.

    I am with francois on this. Without the "policing" the US has done over the last 60 years, you in Britian would not be here. You would be saying "Heil" to your latest despot.

    Get real. No matter what the faults of the US have been, at least we have a democracy. Withour our efforts on your behalfs, you would not.

  • TR
    TR

    Francois,

    The United States will likely quit policing the world when the world stops needing a policeman. We're the only policeman you people have, and like people everywhere, you piss and moan about the police until you need one. Then what we hear is, "where are the damned policemen when you need them?"

    Amen.

    TR

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    SiegsWife

    YOU ARE ON CRACK.

    Yes, the U.S. has done a lot of bad things. But lets see what bad things the U.S. hasnt Done:

    Hmmmmm wipe out 6 million Jews and Other undesirables

    Starve millions by going back to a primitive society (POL POT)

    KILL MILLIONs of our own Civilians (STALIN)

    Use Biological and Chemical Warfare [post WWI] (Japan, Iraq)

    Yes, the U.S. (mainly the CIA) has done some shady stuff, but it is NOTHING in comparison to the REST OF THE WORLD. Hello! RWANDA, 500,000 People massacred in 6 MONTHS! Last time I checked, I havnt seen any U.S. ARMY Troops cruising through town shooting JEWS. WAKE UP.

    LOGICAL
    your 'we have them, why cant the bad guys have them too' LOGIC is ILLOGICAL.

    YES, we have the most advance army in the World. Lets give half of our tanks to Saddam to make it fair........STUPID LOGIC. Shit, while your at it, why dont we give Saddam some ICBMsso he can nuke the U.S. or Isreal or the UK! YOUR A FLIPPIN GENIUS.

    Why dont you pack up your shit and move to IRAQ. That way you can protect Mr. Innocent Saddam when we come in to KICK HIS ASS.

    My personal gift to Saddam.....is it pretty :)

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Celtic,

    If the price of oil goes up to $100 -so what!

    In a couple of months when we own IRAQ it will go down to $20.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Francois: I agree with you 100%. There was no problem when we saved their butts in WWII.......

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    ...and WWI, lets not forget the cold war...

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