Comments Not Said at the WTS 8/18/02

by blondie 23 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  blondie

  Mike, you'll find it like that at every meeting if you pay attention and know the history of the WTS. Most JWs don't read much, let alone study. One brother said, "If it is the Watchtower, that is good enough for me." Duh! The meetings are aptly named, congregation BOOK study and WATCHTOWER study because the Bible is not studied. I wonder how many long-time JWs could name all 66 books of the Bible (not necessarily in order)? How many would know if Abel or Cain is the oldest? How many would know if Adam and Eve had more children and if the Bible records any names? How many would know the names of Noah's wife (that's a trick question)?

  Look in the older magazines and see that whole quotations of the Bible take up a paragraph. Nowadays, a little clip of the scripture is all that makes it to the paragraph, the part the writing crew want to emphasize.

  Well, I can hardly wait till next Sunday. I will try to present a pithy presentation with comments guaranteed not to be used at the meeting.
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  MikeMusto

  I will be there next Sunday too......unless I get free porn,or something on my T.V. than I will be home.
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  Simon

  excellent post Blondie

  ... saves us all going to the WT meeting !

  I thought the added comments (the reality check) were spot on.
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  jgnat

  Minimus, I have been helping my honey underline his copy (with neat color coordinated pens). I hadn't even thought about it. I should get my own to mark up in the margins! Great idea!
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  blondie

  Thanks, Simon. I'm glad you and your family had a good visit with your father. I like Canada a lot myself but then I live in the US which is similar to Canada but we don't put 'eh' on the end of our sentences and Canadians aren't pompous. People in the US use the phrase "you know" a lot and of course we are "proud to be Americans" (as if Canadians aren't Americans!) I'll try not to bore everybody and not whip up too many bad memories. I get my digs in at the meetings when I can in my nice submissive, sisterly way.

  I have added to my knowledge of reality by coming to this board. I would like to tell more of my story (my family has a Feuerbacher connection but before Alan was born) but I am not ready to ease on down the road. (Where has biblexaminer been lately anyway?)

  Edited by - Blondie on 18 August 2002 19:42:7
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  somebody

  "How many would know the names of Noah's wife (that's a trick question)? "

  Ummm...f ARK el?

  peace,

  somebody
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  minimus

  hey blondie & MIKE Musto, I just came back from my mom's house and discussed how the refinements of the elder arrangement was foretold in the Bible and yet how Jehovah couldn't even get it right the first time. After I browbeat my poor mother she had to agree that it really didn't seem to make sense.....I just keep trying, since I love my mom.
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  somebody

  blondie,

  "All members of that spiritual nationdeclares them righteous as sons and deals with them as if they were perfect. (There it is in print the anointed on earth are perfect.)

  Now there is something to think about!

  After making my joking comment, I have the article and will read it through tonight and give you my thoughts on it, and what I see. I have the feeling the same thoughts that crossed your mind, will cross mine.

  I just keep trying, since I love my mom.

  ((((((((minimus)))))))))

  I'm glad you keep trying, despite the frustration you must feel at times.

  peace,

  somebody

  Edited by - somebody on 18 August 2002 21:1:0
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  blondie

  minimus, my mother has been not been happy about the WTS for years but her whole family are JWs. She just complains a lot. Growing up in an abusive family conditions you to accept the spiritual abuse at the KH. She grew up in an abusive family and married an abuser. So abuse is all she has known.

  somebody (you're zev's sweetie and he's yours, right?) . Yes that phrase jumped at me. I haven't seen it phrased quite that way before. I did take a philosophy 101 course and it helped me see that the WTS publications do not present proper arguments if any for their conclusions. But then blind obedience is required. People who ask questions no matter how innocent are viewed suspiciously. Ergo, my comments will never be heard at the WT study. I worry that my thinking will be infected again because I still have to go, but actually it's as if I am more in tune to the semantics and word twisting and the lapse of memory of the writers. It actually makes the time less boring as I mentally edit what is said.
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  abbagail

  Thanks, blondie, this WAS reaaaaaally good, and a great idea for a weekly thread (if you're up to that). I thoroughly enjoyed it AND your well-placed interpretations for our humorous enlightenment. (Did you type all that out? Lotsa typing!) Makes me miss getting the Watchtowers in the mail (since they cut us off from mail delivery of the mags, I'm SOL).

  Paragraph 15: "All members of that spiritual nation declares them righteous as sons..."

  What caught my eye about that paragraph was the first two words, ALL MEMBERS... declare them righteous ... and perfect. NOT! When we were dubs and when we did [declare them righteous] it was only because THEY TOLD US TO, not because we thought of it ourselves. Nothing like brainwashing a group by convincing them they have declared you(GB) righteous!

  OutnFree (I think) wrote:

  "Now that I know the bickering, politics, hard-heartedness, arrogance of the WT leaders beginning at the very top ... and trickling down to the local elder body and those ministerial servants jockeying for rank..."

  That comment brought to mind a short post I saw the other day on the Silent Lambs Guestbook which merely read: "A Fish Rots From The Head Down." -- LOLOL!

  jgnat wrote:

  "Through all of that long-winded talk of the beauty of the organization, no evidence of the above? Who cares about the reorganization at HQ? How did it directly bless thepeople?"

  Now that you mention it, when did anything THEY SAY is "so wonderful" have much bearing at the lower levels where WE sat? (no more coffee being served at the conventions). They are always just changing things for their own benefit or to save money. Reorganization at HQ, rather than a spiritual blessing or whatever, was in preparation for covering their legal butts and giving more power to the attorneys for the slam-dunk-wars that were then (and now) on the horizon.

  blondie wrote:

  "The meetings are aptly named congregation BOOK study and WATCHTOWER study because the Bible is not studied."

  What a relevation to see that in print and have it finally come alive! I mean, I always KNEW that, but somehow it never "registered" back then quite the way it does now seeing it in your post. Now it is so OBVIOUS, how did I ever miss it?

  blondie also asked:

  "How many would know the names of Noah's wife (that's a trick question)?"

  What's the trick answer? :-) I have no idea, but that f ARK el was cute!

  LOL! on your last comment, blondie: "It actually makes the time less boring as I mentally edit what is said."

  See ya here next week for another invigorating lesson in "Comments Not Said at the WT Study." Too funny!

  Grits