Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow 162 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  OrphanCrow

  There is a huge market in the medical tourism industry and the JW bloodless demand is creating its own little niche in that market.

  http://www.placidway.com/article/983/Bloodless-Surgery-Options-for-Jehovah-Witnesses

  This is a list of Placidway's partners who provide service. I haven't had the time to track them down, but it might be interesting to see who is behind the medical tourism of bloodless surgery for JWs.

  http://www.placidway.com/partners.php

  The first US medical tourist for bloodless surgery in India was an American JW:

  India is widely known as a key and preferred, low-cost destination for medical tourism among other Asian developing and African countries. In recent years, it has also emerged as a key destination even for citizens of Western countries. As an example, in December 2011, Jack Jones, a Jehovah’s Witness whose faith barred him from having blood transfusions, made headlines for being the first U.S. citizen to undergo a bloodless surgery in India.

  http://www.bmmllp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/India-Law-News-Spring-Early-Summer-2012.pdf
  
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  problemaddict 2

  Amazing! I am following this as blood is basically what set me off.

  OC, your statement below.....

  The global medical market has been groomed very carefully by the WTS for many decades and just now, with the emergence of the blood management influence on entire countries, it is finally revealed how the blood transfusion ban impacts, not only the individual JW exercising their human right to die for God - but each and every person outside of those who agree to die so that the JWs in the blood management/bloodless industry can profit.

  Can you elaborate on the last part of it?
  
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  OrphanCrow

  problemaddict: Can you elaborate on the last part of it?

  I will try.

  Let's work backwards first. Australia's entire health care system is now following the "blood management" protocol. It is no longer an industry specifically targeting the JW community - blood management is embedded in many countries' health care systems.

  Countries like Canada, that have publicly funded health care systems, have already adopted the blood management approach in hospital across Canada - an approach that relies heavily on the bloodless medicine strategies promoted by the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves. The bloodless industry that spawned blood management (an approach based on a cost/profit model) is run by and managed by primarily Jehovah's Witnesses who don't declare their affiliation with a religion that bans blood.

  In the States, and other places, medical clinics that offer the bloodless surgery are mostly owned and administered by Jehovah's Witnesses. The bloodless surgery and blood management promotional material, like books and films, are Watchtower produced. The bloodless industry has a heavy debt to owe to the Watchtower's investment in promoting it - and the JWs who have made money in the production of that anti-blood propaganda.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are now making decisions for how blood is to be administered globally - they are firmly embedded in countries around the world - and each and every blood management society can trace its roots to the father of them all - the Society for the Advancement of Blood Management which is an organization founded by Jehovah's Witnesses.

  The bloodless cult is the WTS cult. They are one and the same. The bloodless industry owes its very existence, not just to the JWs who died for it, but to the Watchtower Society and the JWs who created it.

  And just think of all the donations the Watchtower Society would lose if all those many, many JWs who work in the blood management field lost their source of income. That would take a big bite out of the donation box. The bloodless JWs are good earners and have the money to donate. The Watchtower Society has created quite the perpetual loop.

  Now the whole world is getting caught up into it. Blood management - the Golden Standard of Care. Just like those old whacked out Golden Age guys predicted back in the 20s - science would herald in the New World.

  It looks like there are still a lot of people like those pre-JWs who still believe in the WTS' golden promise - the JWs who are invested heavily in the world of biotechnology have certainly taken it to heart and created their own cult from it.
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  OzGirl

  For a long time, I thought that the ban on blood transfusions came about because it was an offshoot from the days when vaccinations were banned i.e. they contained blood serum and were considered to be "unclean" and I figured that maybe transfusions were put into this same category.

  But I can see from the research presented here that the matter is much more complicated than that. You learn something new everyday.

  OrphanCrow, thank you so much for your research.
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  Vidiot

  The WTS has made so many "WTF-were-they-thinking" choices over the years that have had us all scratching our heads. Many can be attributed to the GB's "True Believer" status, but not all.

  One example was their NGO status back in the 90s. Other than the opportunity to expand their ministry, I can't help but wonder new if this was another (albeit previously overlooked) factor in that decision.
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  Petraglyph

  Hello,

  Really good thread OrphanCrow. You've done a lot of commendable research.

  This is my first post after lurking for at least a couple of years.

  When I was studying for my MBA in the UK we covered a case study on an upmarket restaurant chain and the lecturer shared that he had visited the one in Brooklyn. He commented that this was one of the places the Jehovah's Witnesses used to entertain their business associates and he remarked that they were a very wealthy organisation. I thought that quite interesting at the time.

  I think you may find Open Corporates useful for your research:

  Open Corporates
  
  You can search on companies, for example:
  

  • Watch Tower Bible
    
  • International Bible Students
  • Watchtower

  
  

  …and you can see, and click on, the officers associated with the company.
  

  You can also search on directors to see which companies they are associated with:

  For example: Lorenz Reibling

  A working example:
  

  A search on "Watch Tower" leads to:

  WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA
  

  The agent is:

  BARRY BRACHNA

  on the right of the page are similarly named officers (possibly the same person), one of whom is linked to:

  JWCS, LLC
  

  You can then see the list of officers associated with JWCS LLC, one of which is

  DARRELL BUCHANAN
  

  and on the right of his page is all the companies he's involved with ;)
  

  etc etc….
  

  I'm sure you'll come up with some gems amongst this lot ;)
  

  Happy researching!

  Petraglyph
  
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  jerryminor

  I thought, "ho-hum"' until I went on the haemonetics website and saw an annual return of over 900 million and thought maybe we should stop talking about this. That's a joke but I had no idea of the blood management industry.
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  OrphanCrow

  jerryminor:...I had no idea of the blood management industry.

  The top dog at Haemonetics, Brian Concannon, pulled down over 5 million last year. He was the fellow who worked for the same company as Reibling at one time, back in the days that Haemonetics was just a twinkle in someone's eye - American Hospital Supply Corp. was the parent company that manufactured early cell saver technology.

  The blood management industry is tied into the world of biotechnology, it is part of it - technologies like artificial blood, stem cells, and bloodless surgery are all part of the same industry. Blood management has been born from that industry - the bloodless medicine world. Entering the biotech investment world is like playing roulette at the casino with thousand dollar bills while everybody else is playing penny ante over on the rummy table.

  For some background read on the volatile world of biotechnology and the investors that drive it, this is a good read:

  The Golden Cell by Karen Van Kempen

  Another company that you can take a peek at is the one that manufactures the blood substitute that the JWs push, the one that doesn't have FDA approval yet - Hemopure. The company has changed names and locations rapidly over the years - it was once known as Biopure - I am not sure who they are now or where exactly. It is hard to stay on pace with that world. And the scandal surrounding the founder of Hemopure is interesting.

  Petraglyph:
  Hello,
  Really good thread OrphanCrow. You've done a lot of commendable research.
  This is my first post after lurking for at least a couple of years.
  When I was studying for my MBA in the UK we covered a case study on an upmarket restaurant chain and the lecturer shared that he had visited the one in Brooklyn. He commented that this was one of the places the Jehovah's Witnesses used to entertain their business associates and he remarked that they were a very wealthy organisation. I thought that quite interesting at the time.
  I think you may find Open Corporates useful for your research..."

  Thanks, Petra. I will use that resource, I am sure. Every once in a while it is handy to track down the owners and investors.

  About the WT entertaining business associates - I ran into a comment by Henwood in a court document that spoke of the "expensive entertaining" that he would engage in with the WT people in the paper department.

  Henwood was the fellow who was the salesman that negotiated the paper contracts for the WT several years ago. It got messy, Henwood ended up in court in 2004...it was a mess. He was receiving an exorbitant salesman commission on inflated paper prices.

  The WT paper department got an overhaul - another Society man was brought in and heads rolled - not sure what happened internally, but the court document's that involved Henwood are publicly available. The one court document I was never able to track down was Rittenbach's testimony, the Society man who cleaned up the mess.

  The links to the documents are just past halfway down this page:

  Henwood and the Watchtower
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  EdenOne

  OrphanCrow let me pick your brains further on the bloodless trail:

  If indeed the blood ban doctrine of the Jehovah's Witnesses is serving the interests of the JW-driven blood management industry since 1945, then, I wonder if the latest significant shift in the blood doctrine, namely, the acceptance of blood fractions, has had a corresponding move from the blood management industry?

  In your timeline, do you see anything - such as a technological breakthrough in separating blood fractions - that mirrors the change in the theological doctrine (or vice-versa)? I imagine there might be one. If that connection could be established, it would be one hell of a 'smoking gun'.

  Eden
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  OrphanCrow

  EdenOne: In your timeline, do you see anything - such as a technological breakthrough in separating blood fractions - that mirrors the change in the theological doctrine (or vice-versa)? I imagine there might be one. If that connection could be established, it would be one hell of a 'smoking gun'.

  Absolutely. The trail of "medical breakthroughs" mirror the shifting stance of the WTS on blood fractions. And other technology that relates to the bloodless world.

  I have found several historical medical studies that reveal what was being done to JW patients - procedures that would later get approval from the WTS, yet the studies would need cooperation from a recruiter to accomplish - which reveals that someone in the JWs knew the studies were being conducted. There are clinical trials designed specifically for JWs as the test group - the latest one got changed to a compassionate use program. This has often been the case - JWs are used to identify a need for drugs and procedures that don't meet FDA approval, yet can be distributed under the compassionate program.

  It is how several drugs and procedures have made it to market - Fluosol-D 20% is one that used JWs as a testing group. The Japanese firm that manufactured it approached Dr. Ron Lapin back in the early 80s asking him to try it out on the JWs in the States who came to him for treatment. JWs were the first to use Flousol-DA 20 in the States. Fluosol-DA 20% was eventually taken off the market.

  And, to bring it right up to date, the Hemopure that the HLC lovingly provide access to, is not an FDA approved product. The JW community is facilitating the product's use in the States by demanding compassionate use. The Society's approval of Hemopure mirrored the industry's need for a clinical trial group and, when that privilege was pulled by the FDA because of the risk factors being too high, the JWs keep it on the market through the FDA compassionate program.

  The WTS and their JW bloodless men are all out there pushing their scare tactics directed towards the "risks of blood!!" yet they fail to mention that the risks of using Hemopure outweigh the risks of using allogenic blood transfusions.

  According to studies of outcomes of transfusions given to trauma patients in 2008,[15] blood substitutes yielded a 30% increase in the risk of death and about a threefold increase in the chance of having a heart attack for the recipients. More than 3,711 patients were tested in sixteen studies using five types of artificial blood.[16] Public Citizen sued the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to attain information on the duration of these studies which were found to have been conducted from 1998 until 2007. The FDA permits artificial blood transfusions in the USA without informed consent under a special exemption from requirements of informed consent during traumatic care.

  The artificial blood referred to in the last sentence is Polyheme - not approved by the WTS because it is made from human blood.