How Do You Discipline YOUR Kids?

by MrMoe 56 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dawn
    Dawn

    My two kids have completely different personalities, so I have to use different tactics. My son, now 16, was a hellion!! He has ADHD and was such a handful when he was younger.

    When I would give him a time-out he'd refuse to sit for it so I had to sit there and hold him to make him sit down for a time-out. Spanking him only made him get angrier and out of control.

    He was one of those kids that threw MOTHER OF ALL TANTRUMS all the time - in the grocery store, at home, at school. People probably thought I never disciplined him but I did - all the time, he just didn't care and was going to do what he wanted. But I kept it up.

    Consistency is so important. By the time he was 8 years old he was a great kid, and now.....I don't remember the last time I had to discipline him at all. He's 16 and such a great kid. All I have to do is tell him that I would be disappointed and that's it - he won't do it.

    My 4 year old daughter has a much quieter personality. Usually, just telling her not to do something is enough - but if more is needed I give her a time-out and that's all it takes.

    I'm not one for spanking much - but I do if it's something really really bad - something that they could get hurt for - and I want them to never forget it - like running out into the street.

    My grandmother told me to always balance your discipline with love. Kids have to have as much (or more in my opinion) positive actions from you as discipline. I believed her and it worked for my kids - so far anyways.

  • roybatty
    roybatty

    Lots of good points contained in these posts. I have an 8-year old daughter and 11-year old son. Being a single father there are many challenges, especially how to discipline. One obvious point first, every child is different. I have never spanked my kids and they will even joke about it. I still cringe when I think about that certain parent that every congregation has who, at the drop of a hat, drags their kid to the bathroom and beats the crap out of them. Grrrrr. My father was a BIG believer in corporal punishment, something I resent still to this day.

    Anyway, what I find most effective (which isnt really a matter of discipline) is making sure my kids know exactly what I expect from them. I have high expectations for both Alec and Hannah and they know it. At school, straight As are "hope for" but turning in all of their homework assignments is expected. Listening to their teachers and getting along with their classmates is expected. At home, doing their chores, not fighting with each other, etc is expected. There is no "reward" for doing these things, its just "expected." Of course, no kid is perfect and from time to time expectations are not met. I find withholding certain privileges to be an effective way of correction. For example, during the past school year, my sons grades slipped from straight As to As and Bs. What I "expect" is 100% effort and when I noticed that the reason for the slip in grades was due to him not turning in several homework assignments (they were done but he forgot to turn them in) there was a need for discipline. The punishment was no more t.v. on school days. I told him that if he corrects the situation and it is reflected on his next report card, then we can go back to the old arrangement. Several weeks passed, his report card came in. His grades improved but he still had a couple of Bs. However, all of his homework was turned in and he did give it 100% effort. We returned to the old arrangement. One side point. I also met with a couple of his teachers to find out what the problem was. I believe my son saw from this that I was serious about trying harder in school and that I was also willing to help.

    I see too many parents not spending time with their kids, not letting them know what is expected of them. Then, when their kids get into trouble they try some instant "punishment" thinking that it will correct the situation. They're wrong.

    Well, I hope I didnt sound like I was tooting my own horn too much. But my relationship with my kids is something that makes me proud and brings warmth to my heart.

    Edited by - roybatty on 20 June 2002 12:8:52

  • giantjason
    giantjason

    Good Topic Moe!

    I have 2 children on is my 3 yr old boy who is about as perfect as they come.Although he has his days. I find that consistency is key. I think he is a tiny bit on the spoiled side but mostly he is very well behaved. Usually if he gets out of line I can count to 3 an by 2 he is back on track. If he decides not to listen then he gets a timeout 99,9% of the time that'll do the trick. The knock out blow for him is to take away his DVD's or his Friday night pony rides. He has been a very good boy since we brouth him home.

    My daughter...oh My beautiful little Daughter. She is 8 months old and I am truely frightened. She is the exact opposite of my son. She already yells at us if she doesn't get he way, She can throw temper tantrums with the best of them, all in all she is a little princess. I have no idea how we are going to handle her but it's going to be a ride. I can tell already she's going to be very rebellious and going to need a lot of "guidance".

    Spanking....Before I had kids I always said I wouldn't spank...BWHAHAHAH was I an idiot. We don't do it often, but someties it is waranted lets say for example if my son decides to wrestle with his sister and lays across her belly. Anything dangerous we will slap a hand Liek if he's sticking a fork in the wall socket or something. Honestly I can't remember the last time I spanked him. Ther are much more effective ways to hanlde things.

  • jst_me
    jst_me

    I think it is important to remember that kids react and respond to stress in their lives in different ways.

    I have a 15 year old who has sensory integration disorder...and noone picked up that she may have a physical prob till she was 11 (cuz she is as smart as hell). She used to pitch huge fits...but in retrospect it was always if we were in a crowded noisy place. (She does not do well with noise, or being touched...even bumped into...unexpectedly). Can you imagine how assemblies were for us? She also is very, very literal.....and communicates in a strange literal way. That took some getting used to.

    My son is almost 13, and I am convinced that is the most horrid age that there is. He used to be my BOY....now he laments about how much I have changed and how I used to be so cool. It isnt cool to tell him NO at all.

    Mine both have chores. No one is allowed to say stupid, dummy, or shut up (I prefer some swear words to those words to be honest). Noone goes anywhere unless I know everyone who is going, and I call if they go to someone's house to make sure an adult is there.

    I pay alot of attention to their moods. If they get mouthy, or are extra mean to each other, I start really talking and asking questions to see what is up. I try to take them out to do things with me one-on-one too.

    I would cut these kids some slack, honestly. They are the victims of a bad situation....they are probably decent kids you just disagree with how the parents are raising them. They are probably also acting out to the stress. If you dont like that, the people you need to come down on are the parents. Or maybe yourself. Just admit you bit off more than you can chew letting these people in, have a sit down with them and give them a get out deadline.

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  • giantjason
    giantjason

    GOD MY SPELLING SUCKS!!!!!!!

    BTW something I forgot to add to the last post. Having a great relationship with your kids IS somehting to be proud of. ROYBATTY, sounds like you have a good thing going.

    I agree, every kid is different. I too, am very happy with my relationshipwith my kids. My sons birthday was yesterday(he turned 3) and I counted 5 times through the day that he said "thank you daddy for my party" or Thank you daddy for all my presents". And it wasn't the obligatory thank you, they were honest thank you's. Stuff like that makes me proud to be a dad!!

  • joeshmoe
    joeshmoe

    Personally, I'm not afraid to smack 'em every once in a while. I use a rolled up newspaper. But I don't do it very often. It's tough to be mad at 'em when they're flopping their ears and wagging their tails like that!

    Ok, Ok so I don't have the kind of "kids" the rest of you do.

    Seriously, I grew up an only child. I've seen alot of talk on the thread of consistency in punishment, but also that each kid is different and has to be punished differently.

    So my question (again, coming from an only child) is, how do you handle the "you love --- more than me because you don't ever swat him" or whatever. How do you handle the kids playing off the other one and claiming you really aren't consistent? And if you just ignore it, does that screw 'em up?

  • HomebutHiding
    HomebutHiding

    Jst_me....You are convinced that 13 is the most horrid age? Boy, have I got news for you! It doesn't get any better for a while. You may quake at the thought of 14, and feel free to faint from fear in anticipation of 15 and 16. Good luck, My Dear.

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Incense_and_Peppermints

    you wanna hear something wild? my son has never been hit. or spanked. ever. and you know what? he has always been a very considerate, well-mannered child with high self-esteem, he has a great deal of compassion for others, and we have a very close relationship. he confides a lot to me, and i feel honored that he still does at 15. he is also in an honors program and is a campus leader and popular at school, and has never been victimzed or bullied by other boys. even when he was little, we taught him about certain behaviors that are inappropriate, like kicking the back of someone's airplane seat, for example. you'd be surprised how smart even little children can be.

    i think when you hit children, you teach them to "act" good to avoid getting hit again. and you teach them to hit. but worse, all they know is mom and dad are hurting them - the ones who are supposed to protect them. why is it ok for mom to hit but not, say, a day-care provider? any child, no matter how small, can be disciplined without inflicting physical pain upon them. you might say, well how do you teach little tiny ones withour hitting? they are too young to reason yet. i would say you wouldn't hit an infant, would you? yet you find ways to communicate to your infant, just like they find ways to communicate their needs and wants to you.

    children learn by example. and when they are very small, they are like little sponges absorbing everything around them. they love to copy mommy and daddy. my son used to come up to dad if he had on a blue shirt and he did too, he would pat his little chest and say 'look daddy, same-same like you'. they really look up to you and want to be like you, so you teach them by your own example. when they do something wrong, you explain to them that what they did was wrong, and you also explain why - not "because i said so". at the same time, you have to set clear boundaries and let them know that you are the parent and that if they do something wrong, there will be consequences, and you have to follow through on your discipline, every time. children are children, and there has to be some amount of 'forgiveness' on the parent's part for their children's ineptitude. i mean, if my son spilled kool-aid all over the table, that didn't merit discipline, because he was just being a little child and his hands were just learning how to grasp a glass. but if he was at a party, for example, and deliberately took the kool-aid and poured it all over another child's head, then you would be swift and let them know in a serious tone why that was wrong. then you would ask them to apologize to the other child and remove them from the party or something to that affect. believe me, if they saw all the other kids having fun and cake and ice cream and they had to sit there and watch, they would realize that they shouldn't have done what they did.

    the trick is to be diligent and tailor your responses to their age. for example, you can't ground a little child for misbehaving, but you can withold something like a favorite video or treat, and make it clear as to why. you must also direct your discipline at the act, rather than the person. instead of saying 'you're a bad kid', you would say 'what you did was bad', etc.

    children want us to set boundaries, and they want us to discipline them when they cross those boundaries, because in doing that we show them that we love them. so i guess be firm, be consistent, and above all be loving and fair. and don't wimp out. parents who do that are hurting their children more than they realize. listen to them and sometimes allow them to make their own choices, but make sure they remember that you ultimately, have the final say, until they are old enough to be responsible for themselves.

    thank you for asking. good topic.

    luv,
    ~incense and peppermints

  • HomebutHiding
    HomebutHiding

    Joe...there is nothing you can do to avoid the fact that your kids will resent you and think you are unfair. i am convinced it goes with the territory. hopefully, they will grow up one day and have their own puppies, and finally understand what parenting is about. (I, too, have always had children like yours...so easy to train...they WANT to be obedient, the little darlings...what brand are yours?) HbH

  • MissyMoesGhost
    MissyMoesGhost

    Incense - <div class=quote>he has always been a very considerate, well-mannered child with high self-esteem, he has a great deal of compassion for others, and we have a very close relationship. he confides a lot to me, and i feel honored that he still does at 15.</div>

    Then perhaps this is why he is a good kid. Read what you wrote. I think it is self-explanitory.

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