What the heck? Harrassing emails from a POSTER! (page 3)

D8TA

If you cant respect my opinion about the matter, then your entire post about free speech is bullsH!!!

I can "tolerate" your opinion....but "respect" it? Give me a break! I completely DISRESPECT your opinion, and no it doesn't make my entire post B.S.

Now, had I said you have NO RIGHT in stating your opinion, then you have an argument.

God sakes, do you think I "respect" the point of view of "hate" groups? Nope. Do I believe they have a right to free speech? Yep.

What does "respect" have to do with the validity of my post? That's right. Again. Nothing.

D8TA

ring

whatever, wave your flag

i never said he didnt have a right to wave it in this country,

It was only in my opinion that it doesnt belong here, I guess i couldnt

GAF if you respect my opinion or not. I wont lose sleep over it

My use of the word 'respect' was directed towards the fact you dont

seem to think i have a right speak against it, because the great 8DTA

spoke for it. you used phrazes like " i feel sorry for you" and " its your problem".

You seem to be quite offended that someone here dare have an idea that is against

yours,,,,I feel sorry for you

Let's get a few statements straight.
First: John Steinbeck HATED communists YEP red-white- and blue hated 'em. But he was in favor of Unions (which we should all be)If you ever get to watch Book Notes on CSpan they aired a special on Steinbeck a few weeks ago, so check their website for more info. Steinbeck also spoke out against mans inhumanity to man using the Depression as his setting. He wrote against nature (ie.,the dust bowl), greedy poor and/or rich folks, and wanted to paint a word portrait that we wouldn't forget.

Next: Stalinism, Maoism, Modern Chinese-ism, North Korean-ism, Cuban-ism none of these are alike. Consider that what passes for democracy in places like say ElSlavador , Panama, India,Argentina (I think still Argentina)wouldn't get past the US Constitution. Okay I know we Americans are a Republic, well so are the CHinese.

Personal: In China today the government has instituted many laws to help the free enterprize system to grow. That's something you'd never have seen under Stalin's Magnetic Mountain. Due to the one child policy (which is for Han Chinese living in cities or large non-agricultural areas)many new independent thinkers are studying in other nations AND guess what? They eventually go back to China. Imagine that... returning to someplace that's so fucking awful <img src='/forum/images/smilies/amazed.gif' align=middle>

And before you say it allow me . TianAnmen Square slaughter was an abuse of power, as was the Kent State incident.

D8TA

My use of the word 'respect' was directed towards the fact you dont seem to think i have a right speak against it, because the great 8DTA spoke for it. you used phrazes like " i feel sorry for you" and " its your problem".

In what way do those phrases (even out of context...tsk tsk...that's a bad JW habit to retain) in any way suggest that I "dont think you have a right" to speak against this issue of Haase or Your excercise in free speech?

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Re-read my posts.

You bet it's "your problem". It's you that has a problem with Haase's signature. No where does this even remotely suggest or imply that I've said you have no right to your opinion, or are prohibited from typing/speaking it.

And yes, I do "feel sorry" for you. I feel sorry for you, because of your lack of tolerance leads you to believe that Haase should censor himself to accomadate on what you feel is "right" or "wrong" for this forum community. No where does this even remotely suggest or imply that I've said you have no right to your opinion, or are prohibited from typing/speaking it.

You seem to be quite offended that someone here dare have an idea that is against yours,,,

Again, you are grabbing for straws that are not there, pertaining to THIS debate.

Apparently, your argument is not about "free speech" nor the excercise of it. Your argument is about me.

D8TA

Edited by - D8TA on 10 June 2002 1:47:42

Imbue

D8....now what are you guys arguing about, freedom of speech?

Daniel Haase posts... socialist party flag and he doesn't expect this to be controversial? Since, he claims to be a 24 YO fellow from south Mississippi. I find that hard to believe.

Bajarama expressed, how he doesn't like it and quite passionately.

Ring Says: "I dont see where advertising a political belief banner in any way belongs on a discussion board about JWs "

D8 says: And yes, I do "feel sorry" for you. I feel sorry for you, because of your lack of tolerance leads you to believe that Haase should censor himself to accommodate on what you feel is "right" or "wrong" for this forum community. No where does this even remotely suggest or imply that I've said you have no right to your opinion, or are prohibited from typing/speaking it.

D8 you seem to be just as intolerant of Baja and Rings view as they may be of DanielHaase...Since Ring never said DH wasn't entitled to his view or his right to express his view. However, in Rings opinion a JW discussion board isn't the place to express such strong political views. There is a time and a place for expressing somethings and not others.

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ring

8DTA,

I asked you a question about how far you would go to protect free speech?.

Then i gave a personal opinion about how i felt about the flag being here.

It was not an attack upon you, you have turned it into that with your insulting

responce. This forum gets censored all the time. There are some here that feel the

the need to post porn, Where is your free speech defence for them? I do not come

to this site to view porn, nor have i ever posted a pic of that nature. I also dont visit

this site to view political advertisiments. It is not my forum to decide what may or

may not be posted here. I can only voice my opinion on the matter, which is what i did.

if you have taking anything I've said personal, then that is your problem.

we are all not still in the Kingdom hall were we have to agree on everything, so get over it

Edited by - ring on 10 June 2002 2:39:27

Imbue

heheh I have to remember to use that preview option...Now, every time you edit it notes each edit...LOL

D8TA

Imbue: Where do I state any comment or address Baja not having a right to speak their mind in any post in this topic? Where? My flag post....to whom did I address? Who?

There is a time and a place for expressing somethings and not others.

Thank you so much for giving permission as to what "time" and what "place" such expression is to be made. Gee, don't I feel stupid now? It's a G.D. SIGNATURE! Are you also offended by Haase's signature? Does it really effect the general idea of this board? I see Haase, saying he's getting hate mail about displaying a SIGNATURE! Please refer me to the posts that Haase has discussed any socialist ideas, other then this one, causing a disruption as to what this board is about. Please.....put the links in a nice little neat row for us.

In fact, you know what, just for the sake of being a pain in the ass, I'm going to have an Iraqi National Flag as my signature from now on. Why? Just because I can. If it bothers people to see such a display....tough crap.

Now...what is this debate about? Answer this one question, What IS THIS DEBATE ABOUT?

D8TA

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ring

if it bothers people to see such a display....tough crap

why dont you do one better, post the Afghanistan National Flag, I'm sure

people in NY and the rest of the country would be proud.

D8TA

Sure no prob...For the people of N.Y. and U.S. of A:

They wish to express their absolute gratitude for freeing them of the Taleban's oppressive rule.

D8TA

What the heck? Harrassing emails from a POSTER!

D8TA

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