Circuit Overseers and Corruption (page 4)

Francois

4Horsemen, you said, "He cannot divorce his ego any more than he can divorce his lungs from providing oxygenated blood."

That's the real trick about this life, isn't it? Give up your self, in order to save your Self. Divorcing the ego is the goal of this life so far as I can understand it, divorce the ego and reveal the brilliant splendor of the indwelling spirit of God.

And while it's not impossible, it ain't easy either. I have known two such people in my life, and have been attempting to reach that rarefied estate myself for nearly 20 years. Everytime I get close, the ego grabs me by the collar and jerks me right back in.

OH well.

FT

SloBoy

Welcome Martin to the site, looking forward to your input....Bonovox, I think the point is not about invalidating the 'good ol daze', heck, we all had some pretty neat experiences back then. Yeah, the Peace Train was about to pull on out and the 'place' was a hub of warm fuzzies. But because the organization is now so rife with graff and corruption, any person in a resposible position (C/O) not seeing the truth about the truth has to work really hard to disregard the facts. Accountability is always waiting.

Pathofthorns

Francois, really cool comments about "ego"... Thanks, I enjoyed that.

Path

Siddhashunyata

For Francois : " WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS WHAT IS LOOKING " Francis of Asisi

nancee park

We won't say ALL Circuit Overseers are corrupt, but we can say MANY or even MOST are corrupt.

DazedAndConfused

Wazchauk(sp) 4

I thank God every day for this man!. At the time that I left the borg, if the C.O. had been the least bit compassionate (Waschauk) I might still be there today. That man is a total horses ass!!!

amac

Welcome Martin, Hope to hear more about your story.

I'm also glad to hear many defending C.O.s with a balanced view. There's not much I can add to this thread that hasn't been said by others, besides that I too know just as many good COs as I do lousy COs. In fact, a good friend of mine is a CO out in Texas in the sticks somewhere living in a tiny trailer. He has certainly made a lot of sacrifices and is serving in a very poor area.

A couple people have stated that we "can't say all CO/DO's are bad, but MOST of them are." That is ridiculous! What can you base that on? Your own personal experience? If so, then that is all it is, your own personal experience. I doubt anyone is going to conduct any kind of research to determine that "MOST" CO/DO's are bad, so please note your generalizations.

amac

LeslieV

Welcome to the board Martin we all look forward to hearing more of your experiences.

Certainly in the JW religion if you are a CO, DO, Presiding Overseer these are positions of power. If a person already has power issues he is going to abuse that power. There are some I would guess, in the minority, that do not have power issues and these are the ones that are geniunely concerned for the brothers and sisters.

Of course, in my view there is no way to have a balance of power since you have a male dominated organization. Unless there is a balance of power between gender, ethnicity, social economic backgrounds you will always have ones that oppress others. Just my thougts.
Leslie

SUSCARRA

Martin,

Here's a nice big welcome to you. Man do you have a lot of experience with the org. I can just imagine the stories you have to share. Or maybe there are a lot that you' like to forget.

WELCOME again,

SUSCARRA

mrs rocky2

Welcome Martin. Looking forward to hearing your stories.

My father is the PO of a USA Westcoast metro area congregation, my brother has also served as an elder and pioneer in another large Westcoast city, so have had some front seat observation of how the convention and assembly parts get divied up. Money does help. The most interesting change in CO behavior I've noticed is how in my area the last two COs chose to be housed with a wealthy family that lives a good 15 country miles from the Kingdom Hall. There were elders with modest homes in town, very close to the KH, older, smaller homes, elders with modest incomes. When I was a young girl I recall COs wanting to be conveniently located to 'theocratic activity' regardless of the accomodations - in fact the more modest the better. So when I observed the change I thought maybe it was local. Have since learned it more the norm. Sad too. This is the kind of stuff that helped us leave WT. I would like to believe there are still good people still left in the organization. But I think they are few and far between, because I think the good ones see the problems and want to speak out for a change but are threatened with getting booted out. They leave on their own, like we did.

Glad to have you join us.

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