How much sediment would have been moved in Noah's flood?

by Zoos 26 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Just something to reflect on , various ancient civilizations professed every time something clalmtoius like an earthquake, flood, lightening storm, drought, famine, were caused by the anger of their selective gods.

    So having the Hebrew's YHWH getting angry of what their god saw of this chosen people and causing a great enacting flood is not that far off of other mythological stories from different ancient civilizations.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries
    Check out the Epic of Gilgamesh sometime. Babylon's side of the story for the great flood and many similarities and intersections with the Hebrew side.
  • purrpurr
    purrpurr
    End of mysteries. In Gilgamesh I believe there was even an ark of sorts that came to rest on the top of a mountain?
  • kaik
    kaik

    Some of the sediments in Northern America are up to two miles deep. This is especially true for central part where intracoastal seaway connected Hudson Bay with Gulf of Mexico, but over the time it was filled with deposits. Therefore, it is also difficult to understand what is the cause for Madrid fault in middle of the country, due the rift being filled with sediments. Northern America has a lot of craters (Catskills, Chesapeake Bay, Yucatan, Manicouagan), which are well studied cases.

    It's very likely if humans originated in that general area of the world that it would be completely flooded without it everything

    Nope, humans originated in Eastern Africa and the migration is well documented from numerous evidences in archeology, biology, paleontology,... Israel is in the middle of rift between several tectonic plates that pushes African Plate northwest and Arabian plate south east/east. There are also microplates like Anatolian, which have own direction of movements. One point Mediterranean sea was closed, causing a huge issue with global climate as it almost dried up. Water level in enclosed area can fluctuate by several hundred feet, and this also evident by Booneville lake. Israel topo features are not unique.

    Earth potentially having had a ice ring similar to Saturn

    No, there are not evidence to , it is another pitiful attempt of evangelical creationists to come up with explanation of Stone Age myth as a scientific proof. Last time Earth was significantly covered with ice was 550 ma when most of the surface was covered with glacier with the exception of equator. This is known as snowball effect, and the ozone layer is the legacy of this glaciation.

    ancient civilizations living in both North and South America at the time of the supposed flood occurring

    Not only there, but also in China. There is no whatsoever any evidence of global flood around 2200BC. Not single one. Egypt was already advanced civilization, and human population was already distributed everywhere around the globe even in Australia. The number of people around the time was close to 30 millions. European neolithic is well studied subject for last 200 years, and there is nowhere a break of population habitat in Europe around the time of flood.

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    I suggest the reason that there were myths myth of floods found in all inhabited continents was because of the need to explain the reason why it began to rain so much after the last ice age. There was no Noah’s Flood; it is just one of the myriad folk tales found in the earliest literature as an echo of the phenomenon of global warming and its natural consequence; the new experience of voluminous rain which had not occurred even within folk memory of earth’s inhabitants twelve thousand years ago. During the last global thermal minimum between twenty thousand and eleven thousand years ago, a large amount of the earth’s free water had been bound up frozen in the arctic and Antarctic ice sheets.

    With the melting of the enlarged ice-caps (beginning about 14,000 years ago) which had accumulated during the arctic freeze of the last ice age, the sea levels began to rise dramatically as the ice evaporated and water vapour became airborne. Floods most definitely occurred and land bridges were drowned including the connection between northern France and England which existed up till about 8400 years ago if memory serves right.

    To get a proper handle on anything: stop believing in the truthfulness of the Bible. The Bible is pre-scientific superstition. The question of " how much sediment" makes no sense unless there was a Noachian flood...which was both physically impossible and for all the catastrophic impact it would have had is not recorded at all by the earth sciences. Further to that , it happened so the Bible says, in historic time and as others have said;there is no mention of it. It's a myth!

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Not only there, but also in China. There is no whatsoever any evidence of global flood around 2200BC. Not single one. Egypt was already advanced civilization, and human population was already distributed everywhere around the globe even in Australia. The number of people around the time was close to 30 millions. European neolithic is well studied subject for last 200 years, and there is nowhere a break of population habitat in Europe around the time of flood.

    That's a very good point Kaik , forgot about that .

  • gone for good
    gone for good
    The bible version of the tale of a global flood comes complete with a date - it was only 4,400 years not 6,000 as the OP postulated.
  • kaik
    kaik
    Interesting feature of European neolithic is continuous human settlement, while underlying ethnic groups had changed and intermingled as can be evident from pottery and sites. A good example is Beaker culture and Corded Ware culture which existed at the same time as supposed Deluge. These people built Stonehenge and hundreds of sites around continent from Iberian peninsula to British Islands to Central Europe and Carpathian basin. The civilization ended around 1800 BC after 1000 years of continuous existence after introduction of bronze into the culture. Some sites were inhabited for several hundreds of years of continuous human presence and had yield hundreds of skeletons. There are DNA studies done across Europe on this culture to pinpoint ancestry of Indo-european population and they are interest for origin of proto-Celtic and and Balto-germanic nations. None of these studies had ever uncovered a global deluge and total annihilation out of population in the 2200 BC. There was a significant collapse of Bronze age civilization in Europe around 1600BC as a result of Thera explosion and subsequent mass migration of population southward due sudden cooling of the northern hemisphere. Science can pinpoint this explosion to accuracy of 50 years, yet, nobody ever discovered any evidence of global flood in neolithic/bronze age.
  • truthseeker100
    truthseeker100

    Kaik

    What is your educational background? You sound very knowledgeable about these things!

  • SimonSays
    SimonSays

    The assertion then is based on hypothetical. Archeology along with science would need a definitive answer to the point of origin. The same point of origin that eludes evolutionist. Given that conformity then becomes speculation.

    Flood question:

    How can any of us confirm that while the flood was accruing time and place meaning all living things just didn’t come to a standstill.

    How can any of us know while the flood was accruing sediment didn’t change the structure of the earth, and thus having bodies or organic material placed elsewhere.

    Evolution Question:

    How can any of us confirm with absolute certainty the carter is an impact crater verse an outward explosion crater? An explosion crater would answer some of the question of orbital plants within our solar system by which man has been confirming with possible life Bactria within our system.

    If man can answer these few simple questions, then man would be in a better position to absolute..

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