Below is my First Test. This is a listing of Every Mention of "1914" in the Watchtower from 1879 - 1916
I didn't remove the Duplicates and it's a bit messy, but this will work really well for all In Depth Searches.
1 prophetic testimonies respecting when the harvest began (Oct., 1874 A.D.) and when it will end (Oct., 1914 A.D.), a period of 40 years, just as was the Jewish harvest. Unlike error, these things stand investig w1879-1916_(Text).txt
2 s. From this we deducted the B.C. 606 date before Christ (B.C.) 606. Thus we ----- found the year A.D. 1914. A.D. 1914 AN OPEN QUESTION Coming now to a very critical examination of the date 536 B.C., there is w1879-1916_(Text).txt
3 2520 years. And measuring this period, we find that 2520 years will expire with the close of the year 1914, A.D. and consequently that by that time Gentile rule will be no more while God's Kingdom will then ho w1879-1916_(Text).txt
4 e 2520 years. And measuring this period, we find that 2520 years will expire with the close of the year 1914, A.D. and consequently that by that time Gentile rule will be no more, while God's Kingdom will then h w1879-1916_(Text).txt
5 class amongst men under the restitution conditions which we believe will begin to obtain from October, 1914 A.D., and onward, represented probably in the ancient worthies, who will then, as the earthly represen w1879-1916_(Text).txt
6 t dispensation covers the entire period of evil under present ruling powers, which last until October, 1914, A.D.; and that (5) The year of trouble so remarkably detailed is a figure of the year of trouble, 191 w1879-1916_(Text).txt
7 r wrath of the "Day of the Lord" has already been shown as commencing A.D., 1878, lasting 37 years, to 1914, A.D.--as the curse upon the nominal Jewish church was of 37 years duration, from A.D. 33, where Jesu w1879-1916_(Text).txt
8 tural Israelites in the sending of the Gospel to the Gentiles, Cornelius being the first; and October, 1914 A.D., as the end of the forty years' harvest. Any other dates than these are purely speculative. We ha w1879-1916_(Text).txt
9 ping saints in 1840, instead of 1878, and the end of the harvesting of the "wheat" in 1876, instead of 1914 A.D., as the time when the burning of the "tares" in the world's "time of trouble" would have been due w1879-1916_(Text).txt
10 the date 721 B.C., or, in other words, 125 years before 606 B.C. Reckoning a similar period back from 1914 A.D. brings us to 1789 A.D., the year of the French Revolution, from which Christendom recovered, thou w1879-1916_(Text).txt
11 will be "trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be filled full"--viz., October, 1914, A.D. By that time the heavenly Kingdom will be in power and the ancient worthies--Abraham, Isaac and w1879-1916_(Text).txt
12 are going to Palestine. Yet bear in mind, "Gentile Times" do not fully end as scripturally shown until 1914 A.D.; consequently their overthrow may be less rapid than would now seem probable. The trouble may be e w1879-1916_(Text).txt
13 n, dear friends, it is evident that the coming of universal anarchy after the "harvest," after October 1914 A.D., has nothing whatever to do with either the presence of the Reaper or the setting up of his Kingd w1879-1916_(Text).txt
14 o it; but in any event, the time for the smiting of the image in its feet will not come until October, 1914 A.D., however much trouble and distress of nations may result from the prior awakening of their people w1879-1916_(Text).txt
15 Times of the Gentiles" can be changed as suggested in the July TOWER, so that the anarchy will follow 1914 A.D., instead of preceding it, might not similar changes be made in respect to all the various lines of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
16 iar with the presentation of the subject given in MILLENNIAL DAWN, will recall that the date, October, 1914 A.D., is very sharply defined by two lines of evidence: (1) The Times of the Gentiles--2,520 years fro w1879-1916_(Text).txt
17 ord has enabled me to see another remarkable confirmation of the Parallel Dispensations, teaching that 1914 A.D. is the date when Christendom will lose its crown, will be finally overthrown, and when he, "whose w1879-1916_(Text).txt
18 ne is laid in "the time of trouble," probably near its close, (perhaps, as we read the prophecy, about 1914 A.D.) It is surely during "the day of the Lord" (verse 1) when the first return of Israelites to Palest w1879-1916_(Text).txt
19 ne is laid in "the time of trouble," probably near its close, (perhaps, as we read the prophecy, about 1914 A.D.) It is surely during "the day of the Lord" (verse 1) when the first return of Israelites to Palest w1879-1916_(Text).txt
20 higher changes run parallel and keep pace with each other. As we find the forty years, from 1874 to 1914, A.D., prophetically marked out as the time for the change of earths administration, it would seem not w1879-1916_(Text).txt
21 ht of the parallel here and perceived, as above stated, that our forty years' harvest, ending October, 1914 A.D., should not be expected to include the awful period of anarchy which the Scriptures point out to w1879-1916_(Text).txt
22 when the kingdom of heaven has been fully established in the earth. [Which we understand will be about 1914 A.D.] The Great Physician--the Christ--will then be among men in power and the work of healing and res w1879-1916_(Text).txt
23 le the time to favor Zion began in 1878, the treading down of the Gentiles will not be at an end until 1914 A.D. The interim, however, will be more and more a time of turning away of blindness from Israel;-- th w1879-1916_(Text).txt
24 .........................6042 and the full forty year "day of wrath" from October, 1874, will end Oct. 1914 A.D., the full limit of Gentile Times to tread down Jerusalem and its people. All students of chronolo w1879-1916_(Text).txt
25 age, by measuring 1881-1/2 years from the Spring of A.D. 33, which would bring us exactly to (Autumn) 1914 A.D.--the very year and time shown us by Daniel's prophecy to be the full end and limit of the "Gentil w1879-1916_(Text).txt
26 l age, by measuring 1881-1/2 years from the Spring of A.D. 33, which would bring us exactly to (Autumn) 1914 A.D.-- the very year and time shown us by Daniel's prophecy to be the full end and limit of the "Genti w1879-1916_(Text).txt
27 The brother seems to further misunderstand us to teach that no great trouble will come before October, 1914 A.D. This is incorrect: we expect the great trouble of Rev. 13:15-17 before that date; but it will not w1879-1916_(Text).txt
28 nation of the great time of trouble which will precede the Millennial blessings will be after October, 1914 A.D.--very speedily thereafter, in our opinion --"in one hour," "suddenly." Our readers familiar with w1879-1916_(Text).txt
29 O ZION! IN a recent issue we showed that the universal anarchy should not be expected before October, 1914 A.D. We have recently heard of two dear brethren who, not grasping the subject very clearly, got the i w1879-1916_(Text).txt
30 vision of Christendom into Papacy and Protestantism was 1521 A.D. Therefore, 393 years later, i.e., in 1914 A.D., we should expect the final overthrow of "Christendom." The evidence that 1521 A.D. is the date w w1879-1916_(Text).txt
31 e meet again." ==================== R3389 : page 197 UNIVERSAL ANARCHY--JUST BEFORE OR AFTER OCTOBER, 1914 A.D. WHAT seems at first glance the veriest trifle and wholly unrelated to the matter, has changed ou w1879-1916_(Text).txt
32 but that the general collapse of all governments in anarchy is not to be expected before the close of 1914 A.D. What has occurred in Russia is but a circumstance compared to what we expect at that time; but it w1879-1916_(Text).txt
33 ing point, the 2520 years of "Gentile Times" will, without stretching or shrinking, end with September 1914 A.D.; while, possibly, something may be expected 18 years sooner (1896 A.D.); because the announcement w1879-1916_(Text).txt
34 .........6023 The year ending Oct. 1900 A.D. will be.........................6028 The year ending Oct. 1914 A.D. will be.........................6042 and the full forty year "day of wrath" from October, 1874, w w1879-1916_(Text).txt
35 f the 1260 days that the Time of the End is a period of 115 years, beginning with 1799 and ending with 1914 A.D. Wondering whether there might be a time-parallel here also, I reckoned back 115 years from 606 B. w1879-1916_(Text).txt
36 will be on the spirit plane, because begotten of the Spirit. page 1 VOL. XXXV JANUARY 1 No. 1 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Views From The Watch Tower........................ 3 The Days Are at w1879-1916_(Text).txt
37 ance into the Kingdom? P. 728, par. 3. ==================== page 17 VOL. XXXV JANUARY 15 No. 2 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS A Prophecy Nearing Fulfilment..................... 19 Sorrow Turned w1879-1916_(Text).txt
38 s for sending copy to me. Very truly yours, MRS. H. LOUNT. page 33 VOL. XXXV FEBRUARY 1 No. 3 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS The Anointed--The Messiah--The Christ............. 35 The Mystery of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
39 our brother in hope, W. E. HULLINGER. ==================== page 49 VOL. XXXV FEBRUARY 15 No. 4 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Job's Experiences Typical of Human History........ 51 Job's Hope of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
40 UDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each, or 50c. per doz., postpaid. page 65 VOL. XXXV MARCH 1 No. 5 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Consecration as Related to Present-Day Conditions................... w1879-1916_(Text).txt
41 whom they will receive their directions. ==================== page 81 VOL. XXXV MARCH 15 No. 5 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS The Memorial Supper April 10th.................... 83 Eating and Dri w1879-1916_(Text).txt
42 UDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each, or 50c. per doz., postpaid. page 97 VOL. XXXV APRIL 1 No. 7 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Jehovah's Character Manifested in His Great Plan of the Ages........ w1879-1916_(Text).txt
43 our brother and servant, C. T. RUSSELL. ==================== page 113 VOL. XXXV APRIL 15 No. 8 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Who Commits the Sin Unto Death?--Part I...........115 First Step Tow w1879-1916_(Text).txt
44 TUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each, or 50c. per doz., postpaid. page 129 VOL. XXXV MAY 1 No. 9 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Views From The Watch Tower........................131 Forebodings of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
45 .. 30 Fort Smith, Ark............... 30 ==================== page 145 VOL. XXXV MAY 15 No. 10 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Giants In These Days..............................147 A Show of Grea w1879-1916_(Text).txt
46 IES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each, or 50c. per dozen, postpaid. page 161 VOL. XXXV JUNE 1 No. 11 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Views From The Watch Tower........................163 Dr. Abbott's O w1879-1916_(Text).txt
47 time, love CHRIST, and long for GLORY! ==================== page 177 VOL. XXXV JUNE 15 No. 12 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS 1914--General Conventions--1914...................178 The Voice From w1879-1916_(Text).txt
48 IES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each, or 50c. per dozen, postpaid. page 193 VOL. XXXV JULY 1 No. 13 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Necessity of Self-Control.........................195 Sad Perversion w1879-1916_(Text).txt
49 Yours in the one hope, S. W. PENNOCK. ==================== page 209 VOL. XXXV JULY 15 No. 14 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Our Hope--An Anchor to the Soul..................211 Inward Faith--O w1879-1916_(Text).txt
50 bless you! Yours in the Redeemer, WM. BOUTILIER.--MONTREAL. page 225 VOL. XXXV AUGUST 1 No. 15 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS The Way, the Truth, the Life.....................227 The Channel of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
51 (M.D.) Of State Hospital for Insane. ==================== page 241 VOL. XXXV AUGUST 15 No. 16 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS Four General Conventions..........................242 View From the w1879-1916_(Text).txt
52 r look back. Yours by His grace, F. M. MORRIS.--Florida. page 257 VOL. XXXV SEPTEMBER 1 No. 17 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS The Present Crisis................................259 Fruit of the V w1879-1916_(Text).txt
53 ellow-servant, PAUL S. L. JOHNSON. ==================== page 273 VOL. XXXV SEPTEMBER 15 No. 18 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6042 ---------- CONTENTS "Thy Judgments Are a Mighty Deep".................275 Why God Permit w1879-1916_(Text).txt
54 ES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c each, or 50c. per dozen, postpaid. page 289 VOL.XXXV OCTOBER 1 No. 19 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS Rejoicing in Tribulation..........................291 Persecution Su w1879-1916_(Text).txt
55 r in the Lord, W. E. ABBOTT.--Calif. ==================== page 305 VOL. XXXV OCTOBER 15 No. 20 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS View From the Watch Tower.........................307 Shortening of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
56 ngs, trials and tests, are fit for places in the Kingdom. page 321 VOL. XXXV NOVEMBER 1 No. 21 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS Making Ready for the Reign of Righteousness......................... w1879-1916_(Text).txt
57 ection whatever with this concern. ==================== page 337 VOL. XXXV NOVEMBER 15 No. 22 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS There Shall Be Showers of Blessings...............339 Bible Harmonio w1879-1916_(Text).txt
58 be no collection." Yours in Christian Love, B. H. BARTON. page 353 VOL. XXXV DECEMBER 1 No. 23 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS Spirit-Begotten Sons of God and Their Development................... w1879-1916_(Text).txt
59 ss all communications to Dr. Pelle. ==================== page 369 VOL. XXXV DECEMBER 15 No. 24 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS 1914--Annual Report--1914.........................371 A Very Notable w1879-1916_(Text).txt
60 s, beginning in 1874 closes with the end of the "day of wrath" and end of the "times of the Gentiles," 1914--a similar and parallel period of 40 years. The first seven years of the Jewish harvest was especially w1879-1916_(Text).txt
61 ge 369 VOL. XXXV DECEMBER 15 No. 24 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS 1914--Annual Report--1914.........................371 A Very Notable Year...........................371 Creation Photo-Drama.... w1879-1916_(Text).txt
62 ey all in the end mean the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY--to which all donations should be made. 1914 A VERY NOTABLE YEAR For instance, we have for forty years been looking forward to the present year as w1879-1916_(Text).txt
63 in within the past year, we cannot doubt that if the Gentile Times expire with the close of this year, 1914, a very short period might accomplish the full inauguration of the Day of Wrath, in which, as foreshow w1879-1916_(Text).txt
64 gh which the world is now passing, and which will culminate in anarchy, worldwide, by the end of A.D., 1914, according to our reading of the prophetic Word. HOLY RUSSIA IN THE BALANCES ---------- Many of the w1879-1916_(Text).txt
65 times are 2520 years. From B.C. 606, where the desolation of Jerusalem began, 2520 years reach to A.D. 1914. According to this application of the number seven, Jerusalem will be free at that time, and thence-fo w1879-1916_(Text).txt
66 ile lease of power; for when October comes we are getting down to the end of the Jewish year. The year 1914 actually ended Sept. 20, 1914, Jewish reckoning. Now the question comes, Have the Gentile Times ended w1879-1916_(Text).txt
67 ranslation. The last place to which he was sent was Jordan, which, we believe, corresponds to October, 1914. After that, Elijah and Elisha went on without having any definite point in view. Our thought is that w1879-1916_(Text).txt
68 olporteur rates the same as on our regular cloth edition. ---------- 1914--VOLUNTEER LITERATURE READY--1914 All Classes desirous of engaging in the regular volunteering are invited to send in through their Sec w1879-1916_(Text).txt
69 chi 3:17); still others are telling that we believe the end of the Gentile Times will come in October, 1914. All these truths are being stated in a slanderous way. But we should not be surprised if the Lord wil w1879-1916_(Text).txt
70 might mark the close of Harvest privileges by a similar eclipse. I attach hereto a sheet taken from a 1914 Almanac. Please note No. III., "A Total Eclipse of the Sun, August 21st, beginning at sunrise, visible w1879-1916_(Text).txt
71 s we deducted the B.C. 606 date before Christ (B.C.) 606. Thus we ----- found the year A.D. 1914. A.D. 1914 AN OPEN QUESTION Coming now to a very critical examination of the date 536 B.C., there is an open que w1879-1916_(Text).txt
72 h them as you see fit. Our Bible Helps give references up to 1907, and these take up from that year to 1914 and also some Convention Reports. God bless you, dear Brother, in all your labors of love, now and her w1879-1916_(Text).txt
73 are, who have come into the knowledge of Present Truth and consecrated themselves to God since October 1914! And how glad are many of Christ's followers who have longer known of these precious truths, that the w1879-1916_(Text).txt
74 nds seem to have been in doubt as to whether it is proper to practise water baptism since October 1st, 1914, and if so, as to what words should be used by the administrator in immersing the candidate, especially w1879-1916_(Text).txt
75 e and anarchy with which this age will end cannot be far off--cannot lie much, if any, beyond October, 1914. And if that date pass it would merely prove that our chronology, our "alarm clock," went off a little w1879-1916_(Text).txt
76 DAWN, the great prophetic period termed "The Day of His Preparation," began in 1799 and will end with 1914: and it is the advancement of this "day" and the light which God provides, necessary for its work, tha w1879-1916_(Text).txt
77 we are surely close to it. It was a very close hit that this great Time of Trouble began near October, 1914; and it is going on now at high speed. None of the prayers that it may stop are being answered. If the w1879-1916_(Text).txt
78 Allg. Luth. Evang. Kirchen Zeitung, prints a parallel between the experiences of the German nation in 1914-1915 and our Lord's passion, which recalls the pathological misuse of religious symbols, etc., in Fren w1879-1916_(Text).txt
79 s with the period from the beginning of the seventh thousand years or Day of the Lord, to October 1st, 1914, and reminds one of Rev. 18:10,17,19, where it is thrice repeated that "in one hour" the judgment and w1879-1916_(Text).txt
80 llennial day. This diagram views the Millennium as beginning with the end of "Gentile Times," October, 1914, and shows that the intervening space, 5040 years, is exactly twice "seven times;" and more than this, w1879-1916_(Text).txt
81 Haggai 2:7. We see no reason for doubting, therefore, that the Times of the Gentiles ended in October, 1914; and that a few more years will witness their utter collapse and the full establishment of God's Kingd w1879-1916_(Text).txt
82 the closing years of this Age, except that we understand that the Gentile Times will close in October 1914, and that consequently we expect, speedily following that date, the transfer of the rulership of earth w1879-1916_(Text).txt
83 omething about 1914. I stopped till the brother finished, and then went up to ask him where he got his 1914, and that is how I was led into Present Truth. Shortly after, I was shown a WATCH TOWER. Well, I said, w1879-1916_(Text).txt
84 d will continue until the end of the time of trouble, and the end of "The times of the Gentiles," A.D. 1914, and that it is the trouble of this "Great day," which is here symbolically called the voice of the Ar w1879-1916_(Text).txt
85 repart of that age is the "day of vengeance" or "day of trouble," a period of forty years from 1874 to 1914, and that the grand blessings of restitution are really begun in this trouble, which is a blessing in d w1879-1916_(Text).txt
86 e pointed out that according to the Scriptures the 2520 years of Gentile dominion ended in September, 1914; and that the war is the one predicted in the Scriptures as associated with the Great Day of Almighty w1879-1916_(Text).txt
87 ord's will for us. At first we were inclined to surmise that the Harvest proper had closed in October, 1914, and that the work since going on was a gleaning work; but the facts seem not to bear this out. The pr w1879-1916_(Text).txt
88 r believing that it began to be established in 1878; that it will reach full establishment in October, 1914; and that ultimately it shall bless all the families of the earth. These voices have been circulated h w1879-1916_(Text).txt
89 ral panic and its following years of depression and then another gradual rise and another panic before 1914, and that we therefore looked for only a temporary lull of the world's prosperity now (such as is now w1879-1916_(Text).txt
90 tinue to prosper for a year yet, and accomplish everything that they are to accomplish before October, 1914; and the fall of Babylon will follow shortly after that date. That is one of the things due to come to w1879-1916_(Text).txt
91 ervants is now in process, and that soon reward may be expected. "The Times of the Gentiles" extend to 1914, and the heavenly kingdom will not have full sway till then, but as a "Stone" the kingdom of God is se w1879-1916_(Text).txt
92 ition by the children of Israel, and the blessing of all the families of the earth. The date, October, 1914, and the setting up of Christ's Kingdom, let us remember, have nothing whatever to do with the burning w1879-1916_(Text).txt
93 DAWNS, but I would like to see an article from your pen on the subject--"What can we say we KNOW about 1914, and what do we merely infer or guess?" There are only two things stated in the time prophecies concer w1879-1916_(Text).txt
94 felt a little hesitancy about selling STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES in view of their reference to the year 1914, and who, therefore, turned his attention to the sale of SCENARIOS. In our opinion the brother took a w1879-1916_(Text).txt
95 mperator,' realizing the astral reproduction of Napoleon I., will commence to manifest his presence in 1914, and will be definitely crowned in 1916 or 1917. Until then--alas! poor France!"--Sterling Heilig. == w1879-1916_(Text).txt
96 ================= page 369 VOL. XXXV DECEMBER 15 No. 24 A. D. 1914--A. M. 6043 ---------- CONTENTS 1914--Annual Report--1914.........................371 A Very Notable Year...........................371 Cre w1879-1916_(Text).txt
97 DIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, 5c. each; or 50c. per dozen, postpaid. ==================== R5591 : page 371 1914--ANNUAL REPORT--1914 WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY FOR the sake of our many new readers we expla w1879-1916_(Text).txt
98 l that should the present order of things roll on for some time yet, we should not then doubt October, 1914, any more than we doubt 1874, 1878 or 1881. But we should be watchful, prayerful, and "keep our garmen w1879-1916_(Text).txt
99 29 SOME INTERESTING LETTERS PASTOR C. T. RUSSELL:-- Your remarks in the January 1 TOWER in regard to 1914 are very sensible. There is no flaw in the time prophecies concerning 1914 as set forth in the DAWNS, w1879-1916_(Text).txt
100 n "changed" in the moment of death. The Kingdom will be fully established or "set up" by October, A.D. 1914, as already pointed out; for that date closes the forty years of "harvest" and accomplishes its design w1879-1916_(Text).txt
101 Image we must wait and see. Our statement in October 15th issue that we have never mentioned October, 1914, as an infallibly sure date, either for the ending of the "Times of the Gentiles" or for any particula w1879-1916_(Text).txt
102 the subsequent experiences of Elijah do not typify some of the experiences of the Church from 1799 to 1914, as follows: (1) The rain (I Kings 18:41-45)--spread of Truth in publication and dissemination of Bibl w1879-1916_(Text).txt
103 will be filled before the close of "the Times of the Gentiles," which we think will end with October, 1914. As for others who have not yet consecrated themselves, we can say with St. Paul, "I beseech you,...br w1879-1916_(Text).txt
104 ============ R5328 : page 307 RESUME OF THE ENDING OF THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES WE THINK of October, 1914, as, in round numbers, the ending of the Gentile Times. As a matter of fact, however, the first day of w1879-1916_(Text).txt
105 the eyes of men's understandings gradually, during this "Day of the Lord," (forty years--from 1874 to 1914,) as it now is to ours; except that we, discern it through the word of prophecy revealed by the Spirit w1879-1916_(Text).txt
106 ears, the Seven symbolic Times, from that year 606 B.C. and have found that it reached down to October, 1914, as nearly as we were able to reckon. We did not say positively that this would be the year. We merely w1879-1916_(Text).txt
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