Kansas City Shooter-Nazi in US Today

by Band on the Run 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Jews probably kill about 3 palestinians a minute in Israel. I don't buy into this so called antisemitism nonsense. Read the Talmud or observe the treatment of Arabs and Ethiopians in Israel and you'll see that Jews are literally the most racist people on earth.

    Because other people on another continent are violent individuals, that means a shooter in Kansas City is not motivated on the basis of ethnicity?

  • Space Madness
    Space Madness

    What's your point confused? Are saying since nations unrelated to Israel behaved like barbarians hundreds of years ago that Israel's racisim, bigotry, oppresion, and violence today is justified? Or are you saying since everyone else did it they should get a chance to do it too?

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    First of all the way other nations act started hundreds of years ago but still continues. You singled jews out as if they are one of a small group of people committing vile acts when in actaulity nearly all nations do the same thing down to this day.

  • Space Madness
    Space Madness

    I asked you what nations are currently sterilizing women against their will, destroying people's home and taking their land, and forcing people to live in ghettos and not allowing them to leave? North Korea is one, what are the others. To make things easy I'm going to completely overlook the fact that Israel is occupying land that doesn't belong to them.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    No one is defending the shooter, or minimizing the tragedy. I am watching the story now. The guy is a lone nutter.

    DD

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    The us... south africa china. The us was stetilizing people and infecting them with diseases.

    Occupying land... do I need to go there. Cmon

  • Space Madness
    Space Madness

    Sigh, you're still talking about the past.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    People can hate based on religion, ethinicity, nationality-whatever. I think that like Hitler, they usually use a 'commoner' and more accepted predjudice to justify doing things in their own self interest-because that is what they are all about-their own self interest. Completely.

  • DogGone
    DogGone

    Space Madness,

    Bad form.

    You are moving the goal posts.

    Your original statement was clear. You said that "Jews are literally the most racist people on earth." Note, you didn't say that Israel is among the most racist countries or that Israeli society is one of the most racist social arrangements on earth. That would have provoked some interesting conversations. This is a subject I've done some reading on and there are many aspects of Israeli history and society that I find deeply troubling. That could have spun off into a general discussion about the merits of the very idea of a "nation state" and the makeup of the political map of the 20th century. *hint, the notion of "nation-states" as obvious units of national organization is an inherently racist myth, IMHO.

    But you didn't. You said that Jews are the most racist people on earth. Jews. Some of the most vocal critics of Israel are Jews, such as Noam Chomsky (whom I am not hereby endorsing). If you cannot see the bitter irony inherent in your statement, then you are a fool.

    You make a generalization from fictional evidence

    Your original post on this thread also made the bold claim that "Jews probably kill about 3 Palestinians a minute in Israel". Wow. That would be 4320 dead Palestinians a day or 1.577 million Palestinians murdered every single year. Not quit Nazi killing rates, but certainly up there. Amazing since there are only about 1.66 million Palestinians in Israel proper with another 2.7 million in the West Bank. Or maybe the killing machine extends to the other surrounding countries, including Gaza? How about you defend that statement.

    You commit a non-sequitur

    I don’t think all your comments about the ills of Israeli policies are out of line. But you started this rant in response to a post about the shooting of three people by a deranged person targeting a Jewish center. You said, “I don't buy into this so called antisemitism nonsense”. That does not follow. Even if you believe that “Jews” kill 3 Palestinians a minute, how can targeting Jewish people in another country NOT be anti-Semitism?

    Let me show you your non-sequitur in another form:

    1. My neighbor killed my dog today after repeatedly stating that he hates all dogs and wants them gone.

    2. Well, dogs kill neighbors everyday

    3. So, I don’t buy this so called anti-canine nonsense

    3 does not proceed from 2.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Anti Semitic and anti Isreal are two different views.

    One is racist, one is geopolitical. Some like to blend the two to keep it simple. That's what simpletons do.

    The nut who murdered those people was a Nazi living about 70-80 years too late in the wrong country.

    Similar to people who were in diapers in the US in the 70-80s when the great radical lib movement was on its way to socialism.

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