Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?

by Perry 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • never a jw
    never a jw

    "it is about a FAILED worldview."

    The only worldview that has failed time and time again is the religious one. Science is always progressing, always refining our knowledge and understanding of the universe around us.

    Fundamentalists contribute nothing to the world of science but somehow use it to prove they are right. What???!!! I used to believe that the Bible was junk. Now, after diligent study of its history and formation, I have changed my mind. It's a great book to understand history, culture and religion when you put in its time and historical context. The problem is not the Bible, or any book older than the Bible, but people like Perry who belong to a time 2 or 3 millenia ago. Absolutely frustrating to see people stuck so far into the past!

  • villagegirl

    Grumpy atheist alert. Meanwhile its raining diamonds on Jupiter.

    No-one without a PhD in Physics is allowed to discuss science here,

    new rule. Its just too painful to read.

  • kaik

    Evolution is a fact and documented in various studies in numerous fields ranging from medicine to biology to agriculture. Even if you look at present fruits and vegatables, they are product of evolution in rather short timespan. Present oranges, apples, figs, dates, pears, peaches, and plums changed through selective gardening and cultivation in past 6000 years. Have you seen wild apple from its native habitat, or plums? They would be not edible on present standard. Additionally with the cultivation of trees and vegetables, bees and insects were affected as well and adapted. So did their diseases. Pollen from trees can surive thousands of years and we can document how they changed, adapted, and migrated over the area. Red delicious apple did not suddenly appeared on this earth.

  • jgnat

    What is naturalism and why haven't I heard about it?

    A single human DNA molecule is about 3m in length, uncoiled.

    The length of the coastline of Great Britan may be 2,800 KM or 3,400 KM depending on how you measure.

  • Viviane

    No-one without a PhD in Physics is allowed to discuss science here, new rule.

    No, no one too lazy to learn anything does [not] get respect.

    [Edited for clarity - jgnat ;)]

  • snare&racket

    This site really has changed for the good in recent years.... it must be a representation of the world having easier access to info.

  • Phizzy

    jgnat, isn't Naturalism where people go around with no clothes on ? or is that something different ? could be more fun.

  • jgnat

    Well, that explains it, phizzy. That sort of naturalism never caught on in Canada. Mosquitoes in one season, and snow in the other.

  • Berengaria

    Snare&racket, you are correct that this is another cut n paste from Perry, but it was lifted from a site that sells "Intelligently Designed Apparel and Merchandise"

    From the blurb for one specific T. When he pasted he left off the last sentence

    but his theory is rapidly eroding as modern biological science reveals amazing complexity and design that cannot possibly be explained by Darwin’s proposed mechanism of random mutations and natural selection. This led Phillip Johnson to summarize the situation one day with the phrase that appears on this shirt: “Freud is dead, Marx is dead, and Darwin is not feeling very well.”

    Same old Perry

  • cofty

    Hey you!

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