Today we know that matter and energy are interchangeable, hence they are there always in either form, they are eternal, hence requires no CREATOR.
Errr, how does matter and light supposedly being eternal prove they never had a beginning?
Atheism and Theism are only partly right!
by abiather 38 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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yadda yadda 2
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Viviane
e = mc2
E=MC^2. It's a subtle but important difference.
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yadda yadda 2
Err, yeah, I'm familiar with Einstein's famous formula. But E=MC2, or any derivation thereof, hardly proves light and matter have always existed. Science simply doesn't know why there is something instead of nothing. Religion says "God'" and science just shrugs it's shoulders and says "we havn't worked it out yet."
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punkofnice
Hence in effect, both atheism and theism are one and the same!
Non sequitur.
Denying the antecedent.
Cam on gavnar. Lawd lav a duck!
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abiather
Matter and energy are not the subject of my article.
What I wanted to convey was: both Atheism and theism have equally failed in motivating humans to do good, hence contributed equally to the sorry state of affairs of the world!
When an example of particle is made, there is no need to make an issue of it. We all know that the universe is made of subatomic particles and the intervening space. Subatomic particles carry mass, charge and energy. M-Theory, which could be regarded as the ultimate theory of modern physics, states that all subatomic particles are made of one-dimensional strings. All characteristics of subatomic particles mass, charge and energy arise from the way these strings oscillate. If they oscillate in one particular way, we perceive electrons. If they oscillate in a different way, we perceive protons, and so on. Therefore, we can define the whole universe as countless vibrating strings. However, these strings strictly require multidimensional space (10 spatial dimensions) in order to exist. In other words, empty space is more fundamental than these strings. Without intervening space with extra dimensions, there can be no oscillating strings and hence no universe at all.
Now the question arises: Is empty space is true reality? Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity states that even empty space is not absolute and constant. With extremely high speed travels, the space in-between shrinks. This shows that even the most fundamental entity of the universe, space, changes with respect to circumstances.
If this is the condition of the space in which particles moves, why make an issue of electron? Things are not too simple out there. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle says - loosely - that you can't know with certainty both where an electron is and where it's going next. (What it actually says is that it is impossible to define with absolute precision, at the same time, both the position and the momentum of an electron.)
Hence let us forget about particles, and come back to the subject:
Atheism and Theism cannot motivate us to be responsible-mined about our actions, but a realizaion of principle of Cause and Effect can! (To convey this was my sole intention). Because
We have knowledge.
We have will-power.
We have ability to do good.
And above all, we have an ocean of experiences of other people to correct/fine-tune our future action!
What else do we need?
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galaxie
Hi abiather, where do you see the correlation between , atheism and motivation?. It definitely is found in theism as theism motivates(moves) people to do all sorts of practices.
Atheism on the other hand is a non belief, we don't have to be governed by any form of direction, hence no motivation.
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Abiathar, neither theism or atheism are needed for human beings to be "motivated to do good."
The only motivation needed to do good is listen to our natural, in-built instincts. To listen to our conscience. We all have a sense of right and wrong and follow basic ethics. Most humans by default have no desire to harm other people, realising that such harm can easily come back upon themselves. We understand that we harm ourselves when we harm others, and we are all born with conscience, a sense of compassion and empathy for the suffering of others, regret and remorse for when we cause suffering to others. When we witness terrible suffering of others we immediately empathise, because we are all the same and nobody wants to suffer. Family, community and society cannot function when we go around stealing, harming and killing each other.
This is the simple foundation of all ethics and morality: empathy, compassion.
No theories or science is needed.
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aquafrenta
Lucky for this child at least one gorilla had been to church!!
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OnTheWayOut
Neither atheism nor theism has an intention to motivate doing good. Your argument starts at a false premise.
Atheism is, as stated, not believing in God. If any I purpose is given to its advocates, it would be to educate and break people free from religions hold.