by punkofnice 31 Replies latest watchtower bible
Eden
don't tell me you're a member of the evil, secret society of cat worshippers?
Bazinga!
...and look how evil I am! That's me on your left.....without the hat.
Don't I just look the evil atheist?
This is my band 'the Grumpy Waiters'....we do a song about a pussy.
....and a song about the delusion of religion too.
Eden you seem to be a law unto yourself !. Good for you I feel there is still hope LOL ( don't mean to sound patronising) all the best.
It seems to me that geographical location is a major factor in which god a person might worship as well as the period in history too.
Use a canon of scriptures that jews and christian have tweezed and teased into shape, then lawyered into layers of meaning and you have a church version of salvation.
The early church(not early Jesus followers) ignored the "heretical" gospels that cast salvation and jesus as pointing out that love---not faith---is preeminent. Love is the salvation that transcends this world. Heaven is not the reward.
"I cannot give you a straight rational answer to that question
If more religious people would be this open an honest we would have far fewer religious zealots and a far happier world
Is there not a scripture which says " of all these love is the GRATEST " putting love above faith .I believe in love you don't need god or to be saved to show it. And in my opinion its what makes for a happy fulfilled life.AMEN to love!!
punk, you've got a PM.
You bet, galaxie,
1 Cor. 13:13--"Now abideth these three-faith, hope, love. But the greatest of these is love..."
The whole chapter is beautiful.
Really--"AMEN to love!"
There are at least two viewpoints to the once saved, always saved scenario. I don't think about being saved.
Being legally saved is a "free gift" that cannot be earned, deserved or paid for.
One imagines the only way to lose salvation granted on such generous terms is to actively reject it - like the Pharisees, who pursue a competing religious agenda and kingdom (fiefdom).
Salvation is a process that unfolds in stages:
I have been saved from the authority of Satan, sin (dysfunction), sickness, suffering and death.
I am being saved from the power of Satan, sin (dysfunction), sickness, suffering and death.
I will be saved from the presence of Satan, sin (dysfunction), sickness, suffering and death.
