Since that address doesn't work, try:
http://www.catholicleague.org/search/index.html
Then click on search and type in priests of the holocaust which
is Number 3.
Dear God, Ordinarily, I wouldn't bother You...
by Elsewhere 19 Replies latest jw friends
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Kenneson
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Xander
Look, I just pulled three quotes off of the first site that Google listed for the query 'Hitler' and 'god' - there are dozens of sites, hundreds of quotes.
It's safe to say Hitler was claiming god's support all the way through World War II.
I was merely refuting Yeru's implication that those who did not invoke a deity in their atrocities have committed worse crimes against humanity than those who do.
The entire point of the initial piece was that events and support is attributed to a divine being when it is completely arrogant and wrong to presume so.
(Assuming one believes in a supreme divine being, anyway - if not, and I don't - then the whole point is moot, they could be thanking Grandpa Smurf for all I care)
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana -
Xander
How was he a good Catholic? His actions refute his tongue
However, he claimed to be a good Catholic his entire life - and he was never excommunicated.
Further, his book 'Mein Kampf' in which he details the Jewish menace, was never placed on the Catholic Index Liborum Prohibitorum (Index of Prohibited Books, IIRC).
(The same index which contained thousands of entries, including such useful things to prohibit as 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame', the writings of Galileo and Copernicus, and the Bible - but no 'Mein Kampf' - and yes, it was published up until 1966, so the Catholic Church had plenty of time to ban 'Mein Kampf')
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana -
Yerusalyim
OVer 3000 priests died in Dachau alone. No, Hitler might have USED religion, but he was not religious.
Mao did NOT believe in God, he persecuted those who did.
YERUSALYIM
"Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
[Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"] -
SYN
Yeru: What about the Crusades? The Inquisition? To name a few small examples?
"If men were like their personal ads, they wouldn't need personal ads."
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plmkrzy
Elsewhere...LOL I loved every min. of reading and i think I'll read it again I injoyed it so much.
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Xander
Hitler might have USED religion, but he was not religious
He said that he believed it was god's will to wipe out the Jews, and he thought it was god's will to return Germany to a powerful nation again.
He proceeded to act on what he perceived was god's will.
That makes him religious. That you find his actions he initiated under the banner of god's will objectionable is fine and dandy, but does not change the fact that he believed he was doing god's will.
Just as the Inquisitors believed they were doing god's will doing the Inquisition, and the US believed it was doing god's will driving the heathen Indians from their homes to make way for good, Christian, settlers. Or, for that matter, that those same Christians through the ages thought they were doing god's will by burning witches and heretics at the stake!
Mao did NOT believe in God, he persecuted those who did
This goes against my research. Kindly point me in the direction of something that indicates Mao specifically targetted religious people for persecution.
Near as I could find, Mao targetted those who opposed his communist state, regardless if they believed in god, evolution, or the great blue smurf.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana -
Yerusalyim
SYN,
I never said horrible things had not been done in the name of religion, I only pointed out that the absence of Religion did NOT mean absence of Violence.
XANDER,
What Hitler said was for PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, so again he USED religion. He did what he did because HE thought it was the right thing to do. Hitler abhored religionists.
As to Mao, all my research indicates that he was an Athiest. Who did he persecute religiously? Well, lets start with the Catholic Church.
YERUSALYIM
"Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
[Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"] -
Kenneson
An interesting conclusion reached by one author proposes that
Hitler was neither a Christian nor an atheist. -
Elsewhere
Bottom line: Religion/God played a primary motivating factor in his actions.
"As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
Believe in yourself, not mythology.
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