A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

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  • cofty
    cofty

    You are becoming a troll SBF.

    When did you last comment on a topic other than to drone on about how nobody knows anything?

    You know it irritates the hell out of me so you follow me around the forum ad nauseum

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    I don't imagine Tammy enjoys being told every post she makes is about fake voices in her head.

    Do you ever answer questions rather than demand answers from others? Like this one earlier in the thread.

    Why do you consider your modernist, atheistic interjections in mystical trains of thought to be legitimate interventions, whereas my perspectivist counter-interjections are viewed as illegitimate attempts to subvert the conversation? If we counted them up I'm sure you've made more such interjections, yet mine are to be especially despised.

    Here's some other comments I made in the last day since you ask.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/265647/1/Nuggets-Latest-work-in-progress-pen-and-ink

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/265640/1/Jehovah-is-King-New-Light-or-muck-up-in-15-01-14-WT

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/265612/1/A-one-sentence-reply-that-could-jolt-a-JW#.UmQpZjK9KSM

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/88460/6/THE-ESTRANGED-FAMILIES-LIST#.UmQpkTK9KSM

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/265589/1/How-to-DF-2-Peoplee280a6-With-ZERO-Proof-New-YouTube-video-and-article

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/265602/1/What-Happens-at-Judicial-Committee-Meeting-on-Apostasy

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/265605/1/DubYap-What-is-it

  • cofty
    cofty

    I assumed it was a rhetorical question. I've never seen a "mystical train of thought". What does it look like?

  • bohm
    bohm

    SBF: Please be consistent. Its only your interpretation that you made any other comments. Like you say, if it is more usefull to anyone to claim you didnt, thats the more important...

    I suppose you intend to say: "Right now it is useful for me to claim I made some comments"?

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    What you might call irrational, or a believer expressing their view.

    You really think your continuous pot shots at believers are fair game but a perspectivist challenge to your own worldview is illegitimate? How can you possibly justify that hypocritical position?

    I assure you I am not an obscurantist for the sake of it. When you claim there is only one right way to view and describe the world I think you are deeply wrong, and that to challenge that perspective is both useful and ethically prudent.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    bohm why should I be consistent? The concept of consistency is an enlightenment virtue and in fact unattainable in real life. No one is consistent, to pretend otherwise is the real inconsistency.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    I like Foucault's response when he was accused of inconsistency:

    'Are you going to change yet again, shift your position according to the questions that are put to you, and say that the objections are not really directed at the place from which you are speaking? Are you going to declare yet again that you have never been what you have been reproached with being? Are you already preparing the way out that will enable you in your next book to spring up somewhere else and declare as you're now doing: no, no, I'm not where you are lying in wait for me, but over here, laughing at you?'
    What, do you imagine that I would take so much trouble and so much pleasure in writing, do you think that I would keep so persistently to my task, if I were not preparing – with a rather shaky hand – a labyrinth into which I can venture, into which I can move my discourse... in which I can lose myself and appear at last to eyes that I will never have to meet again. I am no doubt not the only one who writes in order to have no face. Do not ask who I am and do not ask me to remain the same: leave it to our bureaucrats and our police to see that our papers are in order. At least spare us their morality when we write.

    And Walt Whitman:

    Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.

  • bohm
    bohm

    SBF:

    bohm why should I be consistent? The concept of consistency is an enlightenment virtue and in fact unattainable in real life. No one is consistent, to pretend otherwise is the real inconsistency.

    wow.

    that philosopher really did a number on you!

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    The concept of consistency is an enlightenment virtue

    content: nil

    Frankly, I think you have a rather silly world view, SBF. The idea that nothing really has meaning and everything is just perspective is just a thought-stopper. You keep derailing rational discussion, shifting to your favorite theme rather than joining in the discussion.

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    BTW, I ordered the book. I'm looking forward to reading it.

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