$300 deficit in the KH of Rowland Heights, CA

by Yadira Angelini 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • Yadira Angelini
    Yadira Angelini

    Last night, besides announcing someone was disf. and attacks on the Catholic Church's doctrines, they gave the April report of finances....

    Their expenses $900 and some... the collections were $500 and some, and they sent $300 and some to WT... they have a $300 some deficit. They have to pay $12 at the bank; I was wondering if they have bounced a check :-) So.... they have in their pocket $500 and some... they asked to be GENEROUS on last night's donations.

    There were only few people, half of when I last went three years ago.

    Circumstances brought me there to be with my daughter last night.

    After the meeting, one of the speakers approached me to ask my opinion about a video they were all commenting.... I told him, "why do you want the opinion of a 'worldly person'?" He seemed surprised of my answer... I told him, "why are you surprised? that's all you have been talking about tonight referring to me, I'm worldly; if I wanted to comment, I would have raised my hand, wouldn't I?" I also told him, that I set myself up to hear the offensive way they attack the Catholic Church... and because of it, I wasn't going to be arguing with him, only to know that he wouldn't agreed....

    When they announced the name of the desf., I turn to my daughter and ask her loudly, (in pourpuse) "who is that?" and to a lady in the back I asked her: "who betrayed her on this hall?" she looked surprised and she said, "we tried to keep our congregation clean". So I said, "if that is the case, how come you let me in, you know I'm one of the worldly". ( This took place while my daughter was in charge of cleaning the hall, he, he).

    I could see the difference in my approach last night from before, thanks to all of you guys here... I liked a couple that I disliked before. He is an elder... (my daughters mentors, good!); they are the only ones that looked worldly to me... maybe they come to this forum. :-) !!!

    That's all folks! your friend,


  • plmkrzy

    Yadira Angelini

    I don't know how old you are or how long your daughter has been affilliated with that particular cong. But there is a VERY good possability that we know some of the same people.

    That was the first time I saw that or heards that cong. mentioned in a long time. Brought back a lot of memories.


  • LDH

    Thanks for the report.

    I'm wondering WHY, if they couldn't meet their own expenses, they were sending money to the WBTS?

    Does this have anything to do with the fact that the WBTS will hold literature orders 'hostage' until you send money. (Even tho they say everything is a voluntary donation?)


  • Yadira Angelini
    Yadira Angelini

    LDH,yeap! $300.77 cents, that's what they said was sent to WT.

    By the way, I'd like to insert my pic on my frame. How do I do it? Then you can met me in person.

    pml, I sent you an e-mail...

  • LDH


    go up to the upper left
    click on Profile
    log in
    upload your photo

    Good luck!


  • NameWithheld

    Yes, they are obligated to 'contribute' for whatever lit order is placed. Which is why in many halls it is difficult to get large books, cds, and other 'expensive' items. Remember how sometimes you'd order a CD/whatever and it would take 6 months to arrive? And we took it as par for the course. I'm sure that the lit servant wasn't placing the 'order' until the congo could 'afford' it. You can bet your bottom dollar the the WTBTS, inc (or whatever they call themsleves now) will NOT risk finacial ruin by not 'billing' the congos for lit. Once again the burden falls squarely on the rank and file's sholders.

    So while they pat themselves on the back for not passing about a collection plate, how 'strong' was the plea for money? I bet it was laid on pretty thick wasn't it? A nice guilt trip for the sheep? That was one of the things that made me so sick towards the end of my JWhood, was how transparent the pleas for money were - all the while patting themselves on the back about 'not passing a plate' and everything being 'voluntary'. Yea, kind of like how some jobs in the military are 'voluntary' but if you know what's good for you you won't say NO.

    Why can't the JWs wake up and see this?

  • Yadira Angelini
    Yadira Angelini

    LDH, I need a scaner, don't I? I have one, but I need to conect it... thanks, I ask my son over the weekend... Oh, I'm 55 years old.


  • Francois

    I would like to say that in my entire career as a JW, which spanned something like twenty-five years, I never once put any of my hard earned loot in that friggin' collection box. Not once. Not even a penny.

    I guess I was just a bad dub.


  • Imbue

    Francois said:

    I would like to say that in my entire career as a JW, which spanned something like twenty-five years, I never once put any of my hard earned loot in that friggin' collection box. Not once. Not even a penny.

    In all fairness do you think you could get away without making a contribution in the Catholic church and use the facilities. You would not be able to do it with that church. You are charged for everything Baptism, Weddings, instruction for children, intruction for adults, counseling, absolutely everything .Then you are sent envelopes and sometimes told what to contribute.

    Also, many churches pass the collection baskets up to 4 times each service. So compared to other religions the JWs aren't seeking money as much. Then of course and every good catholic should come out and play bingo to add to the coffers.

    Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • dungbeetle

    My congregation has been putting out more than they are taking in for months. I don't think the Kingdom Hall is paid for completely for one thing; also, our Kingdom Ministries have been late sometimes becasue they have not been paid for. (I think they are .25 or .50 a piece, not sure.

    They must pay for their literature or else. All money collected for literature must be forwarded to the Wathtower, PLUS they must pay for any literature ordered SEPARATELY.

    I love Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes. I know mnay do not turn in their time, even though they go in service. I know many have refused to contribute, and they do this becasue this is the little power that Watchtower 'gives' them.

    Personally, I would refuse to give any money to the Watchtower if I knew it was going to (a) legals fees to stop a father from getting treatment for his daughter--as in Canada right now--and (b) going to pay off lawsuits.

    And then there is the little matter of giving money to an organization that expells/shuns rape and molestation survivors; allows child baptism, expulsion and shunning.

    I think JW's are catching on.

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