Xenu, and the danger of his UFO cult posts (page 3)

chasson

So refiners,

Could you explain me when the scientology has been persecuted ?

Bye

Charles

refiners fire

Chasson. Youre theory that Xenu is posting from France and has an agenda regarding these religious groups is VERY interesting.
And you may WELL be RIGHT.
I'll bear it in mind.

Regarding Scientology....
I HATE Scientology. Ive only been involved with them a little.
How about you?? I think the leaders deserve whatever pain and suffering they get. Unfortunately practically every cult "expert" and "exit councellor" I have met wont touch Scientology with a barge pole. Apparently they are pretty RUTHLESS in dealing with opponents.
A legacy from L Ron Hubbard, a pretty ruthless man as I understand it.

chasson

Chasson. Youre theory that Xenu is posting from France and has an agenda regarding these religious groups is VERY interesting.
And you may WELL be RIGHT.
I'll bear it in mind.

Perhaps in france, perhaps in Canada by a sympatico.ca account, but it is not important for me.
What it is important for me is that if Dave want to stop Xenu, he must realise the time and energy it will take to him. Fight against Xenu is talking with him a long time, knowing a lot of information an all cult, on thought's control (for example the Steven Hassan's theory) and in fact, in france, i let this work for people who have more time and knowledge than me.

Unfortunately practically every cult "expert" and "exit councellor" I have met wont touch Scientology with a barge pole. Apparently they are pretty RUTHLESS in dealing with opponents.

In France, an experience as Clearwater is impossible. Scientology has been comdamned several time for detournement of money and this is why they have tried to use American's government to fight against France.

Unfortunatelly, if the fucking bastard of Le Pen will become president, this fight against scientology will stop immediatly and all the good works against cult will ended.

Bye

Charles

SYN

Thanks for that revealing post, Dave. It's much appreciated.

5000 register people? That's quite a few. I wish more of them would post

Every religion is the One True Religion.

chasson

5000 register people? That's quite a few. I wish more of them would post

In fact some of the hierarchy of Raelism post on Usenet even Rael.
See alt.religion.raelian

Bye

Charles

plmkrzy

Refiners "Just cause a guy quotes a passage about Xenu the Scientologist supremo,
does that make him a scientology recruiter?
I think not.
As you have discovered.""

"Raelians and Scientology are two totally different groups, with different focus', they are not peas in a pod. You might as well say Adventists and JWs are the same as each other."

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Sorry Refiners but it could very well be possible that XENU isn't even aware that he is recruting for Scientology but he is.
They have been mastering the art of deception over several decades and hide under many names.
They leaders have been brainwashing there recrutes to get jobs in high places. Not become President But BECOME THE PRESIDENTS SECRITARY. Thats where they have the most control. Is in the background where access to everything is.

Check out some of the info from the different sites I came accross. I knew they were bigger then what most thought but I had no idea. WOW a real eye opener.
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The rest of this is in Daves other thread about FIREPHIM

"St. Bartholomew's Committee." <FIREPHIM>=<Cult Cartel>

TM linked to Cult Cartel

Having been denoucned one after the other, the cults have decided to
counterattack as a group through a new weapon, called FIREPHIM. Such a
cartel is an old dream, dating back to the '80s,

when the Church of
Scientology and TM formed an ephemeral "St. Bartholomew's Committee."

But in recent years, wounded by the same enemies, the Justice
Department, the Department of General Investigation, and above all
ADFI (the Association for Defense of the Family and the Individual),
an anti-cult organization that has become the cults bete noire,

the groups are

reorganizing.

In 1990, Rael and Daniel Gounord, head of

the French Scientologists,

met in Claremond-Ferrand. Soon jailed in
Lyon with other Scientology directors on criminal charges in
connection with the church's operations, Gounord got a letter from a
Unification Church official, and not long after there followed a
meeting among representatives of Moon, Scientology and Rael, and later
contacts were made with other groups and an association registered
with authorities. The groups, agreeing never to discuss philosophies,
is based in Strasbourg to influence the European Parliament, which
meets there.

FIREPHIM has joined demonstrations against racism and xenophobia in
France and Germany, saying that their human rights, too, are being
violated, because they are ''minority religions.'' The new lobby has
declared January 7 a day of ''National Observance of Religious and
Philosophical Movements,'' and is setting up what appears to be an
intellectual wing. Thus far they have gained the support of a Sorbonne
professor.

Under the Mask of the Cartel, Le Point, February 27, 1993~

http://ourworld.cs.com/pwmkwzy/home.html

refiners fire

I cant believe Im reading this lunacy.
Scientology hiding behind a front organization called the "Raelians"???

BULLSHIT!

If The Raelians organization is a disguised front for Scientology, I'll bare my ass in Bourke street.
Ive never read anything so ridiculous in my life.

So theyre both members of an organization called FIREFIME or whatever the hell its called. So what?

Palm reckons:

In 1990, Rael and Daniel Gounord, head of
the French Scientologists,
met in Claremond-Ferrand. Soon jailed in
Lyon with other Scientology directors on criminal charges in
connection with the church's operations, Gounord got a letter from a
Unification Church official, and not long after there followed a
meeting among representatives of Moon, Scientology and Rael

Are the Moonies a Scientology front too?
If thats true I'll ...Well, its just not true.

Theyre all members of this organization because theyre banding together fighting legal actions. Nothing more. Cults have been doing that for years.
Hey if You want to go spinning off into cult conspiracy paranoia...
go right ahead.

See you when you get back.

plmkrzy

refiners fire

Heres something from Daves first post in this thread.

The Raelians as well as the Scientologists denied they have any connection with Heavens Gate but their teachings are very similar even though they publicly deny that also.

Looks like Heavens gate was part of the great Scientology conspiracy too.
Might as well include The "Solar Temple" too guys. they had the same Spiritual heirachies beliefs.

refiners fire

PLUMBCRAZY
All these pages and pages of "evidence" youve posted. Im just wondering.
Have actually READ any of it??

If you have, do me a favour, find me ONE little bit of it that clearly indicates that the Raelians are a Scientology FRONT organization.

Waiting with bated breathe.

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