Scotoma, please read this and please help me understand....really!
Sin is moral badness where in the process of satisfying your own desires you cause unnecessary harm. The Bible calls it "that superfluous thing" ie beyond what is necessary.
There seems to be a factor of greed or excess to sin.
People are perfectly equipped to do-evil without any help from a personal d--evil.
Moral badness? What on earth is moral badness?
Satisfying your own DESIRES....... where did those drivs come from scotoma? ....god ! It is HIS design, his product!
"Unnecessary Harm" most of the sin in the bible harm's nobody but god....e.g. homosexuality or woshiping another god. But how can a god be harmed? It is why such doctrines are nonsense!
"Superfolous thing" as in "Put away all filthiness and that superfluous thing" ? What exacly are you reffering to ? What sin is useless to the individual or beyond necessary?.....give an example?...... and which sin (causing unnecessary harm by your definition) is "filthy?" to put the verse you quote in context.
You are right about excess and greed..... or to put it simply an attempt to play probability and math with nature, something we do to survive. We only need one sperm to reach the egg but we fire millions out, we play the game of probability. We could take one apple, but we take two just in case... because we die without them. We could have sex once and have one child, but we do neither also we enjoy it. Where is this unnecessary excess , give an example? All of these things are being driven by God designed desires aren't they, even IF they are gon awry by god's desicion to make us imperfect... again where is the devil or anyone else but god to blame ?
You say people are equipped to do evil, I will drop my non belief in ecil for a second... if you are right then you have sank god right there, for god equipped us with evil.......
Lastly you say the bible says we are all enticed out by our desies... that isn't a very intelligent observation is it? Dog's are enticed out by sausages.
The bible, written by humans, has noted here that humans are enticed by things they desire..... does that not seem a little self evident? The oly issue then is saying that these natural desires are wrong.... ok if you chose to believe that, but if you believe in a god that created those desires and put them in us, does he not hold the blame? Is it not odd for HE to call these things wrong? Doesn't add up or make sense AT ALL does it?
Again... what exactly do you think are the worst and most negatve elements to life and the universe? List them.....
As there is only one creator in your mind, who created those things in your list.........
Has this not even slightly got you questioning your beliefs?
What about in the bible where god commands evil acts? Like enslaving other nations without hope of freedom? Slicing open the bellies of preganant women in opposing nations that had never had a chance to worship Yaweh, nevermind the fact there were no written laws back then! What about his command to kidnap and take women of other trinbes, raping them and having children with them against their will? What about the genocides he commanded? What about that time he was dissapointed with all his children on earth but 8, so drowned them all, babies too.....
Are these evil acts? How can YOUR god, that imaginary white bearded, shiny, white man with in white clothing with a fatherly, cuddly demeanor do all that unspeakable evil? That is not the same charachter........ that cuddly, loving fatherly man you imagine is not in the bible and even by your own ideas of the bible, all things good and bad originate in his design.....
It makes NO SENSE. If you take it beyond the 4 year olds reasoning of all things good = God= , Satan = all things bad.... and consider the whole picture, NONE of it adds up or makes sense!
Please expain it to me Scotoma...
