Did Jesus really exist?

by slimboyfat 97 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    How Jesus changed history forever?

    One Solitary Life

    Nearly two thousand years ago in an obscure village, a child was born of a peasant woman. He grew up in another village where He worked as a carpenter until He was thirty. Then for three years He became an itinerant preacher.

    This man never went to college or seminary. He never wrote a book. He never held a public office. He never had a family nor owned a home. He never put His foot inside a big city nor traveled even 200 miles from His birthplace. And though He never did any of the things that usually accompany greatness, throngs of people followed Him. He had no credentials but Himself.

    While He was still young, the tide of public opinion turned against Him. His followers ran away. He was turned over to His enemies and sentenced to death on a cross between two thieves. While He was dying, His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth – the simple coat He had worn. His body was laid in a borrowed grave provided by a compassionate friend.

    But three days later this Man arose from the dead – living proof that He was, as He had claimed, the Savior whom God had sent, the Incarnate Son of God.

    Nineteen centuries have come and gone and today the risen Lord Jesus Christ is the central figure of the human race. On our calendars His birth divides history into two eras. One day of every week is set aside in remembrance of Him. And our two most important holidays celebrate His birth and resurrection. On church steeples around the world, His cross has become the symbol of victory over sin and death.

    This one Man’s life has furnished the theme for more songs, books, poems and paintings than any other person or event in history. Thousands of colleges, hospitals, orphanages and other institutions have been founded in honor of this One who gave His life for us.

    All the armies that ever marched, all the navies that ever sailed, all the governments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned have not changed the course of history as much as this One Solitary Life.

    Daniel Webster, American politician., 1782-1852

  • cofty
    cofty

    I thought this was an interesting discussion - then you started preaching. Damn!

  • designs
    designs

    The Jesus of the Gospels and NT was an anti-semite who did not understand Judaism and threatened the human race will annihilation (actually worse if you believe his words) if the races did not worship him. In psychology we have names for that disorder.

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    @designs ,You can believe the man made God of psycology ,I believe in the God of the Bible

    @cofty ,I don't preach I quoted the American politician

    If you deny the historicity if the man that divided time ,what next?

  • Perry
    Perry

    The whole world started counting time from the birth of a man who never lived?

    I don't think so. Rather, the whole world started counting time from the birth of a man that not only lived... but lived TWICE.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    If Jesus really existed then why are all the gospel stories about him made up? It's a fair question. The gospels are a mixture of OT parallels and stolen narratives from here and there. If there was a real Jesus who existed then where is he?

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    I believe in the God of the Bible

    I guess that is where the problem lies. We atheists don't have much of an appetite for misogyny, slavery, murder, incest, child abuse, pillaging, and animal sacrifice.

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    @slimboyfat ,you hit the nail .The underlying question is not whether Jesus existed ,but if he did ,WHERE IS HE NOW?

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    Patience my friend ,patience...

  • designs
    designs

    'Patience'- hasn't the GB and FDS and all of christianity being pushing that narrative for way to long.

    The narrative of the Jewish Messiah, which this NT character claims to be, is that the Jewish Messiah gets it all done in one visit.

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