You might find some books in a used bookstore (themselves becoming a rarity), especially old bibles. I threw out anything in hubby's collection that was already on the CD.
Unwanted Books/Brochures
by rod.henderson 31 Replies latest watchtower bible
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rod.henderson
Sadly true that they are indeed a rarity now. Car boot sales I suppose are always good bets.
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LisaRose
I see them occasionally at thrift stores and estate sales. I have an antiques business, so I go to those things a lot. I tossed mine when I left, and they sight of them creeps me out, so I am not inclined to buy them.
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jhine
bumbed
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Nathan Natas
Somebody (not me) should write a book about the history of JW hymns. It would be fascinating! In the early days Russell's crew just sang the songs they knew from their previous Protestant backgrounds, but Russell's very first PILGRIM was M. L. McPhail, who was a hymnwriter and singer. McPhail wrote most of the songs used in the early Bible Student's hymnals.
As doctrines changed and evolved, songs by "worldly" hymn-writers fell out of favor and were purged from WT songbooks. This has continued to this day, leaving the WT with songbooks full of lousy music and lousier songs.
Yes, Jah's Magnificent Chariot moves on, but turn down the sound-track, please!
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losingit
That does sound like an excellent idea for a book! hmmm
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Old Goat
From Schulz and de Vienne, rough draft on their private blog:
A. H. Macmillan’s Claims
A. H. Macmillan reported a claim made by “Pittsburgh newspapers” that Russell “was on the Sixth Street bridge dressed in a white robe on the night of the Memorial of Christ’s death, expecting to be taken to heaven.” We could not find the original of this newspaper report, though we do not doubt its existence. The fact of the report is interesting, but the conclusions many have drawn from it are distorted. The report, no matter who printed it, was long removed from the events of 1878. Macmillan’s association dates from 1900. [1] The newspaper article could be no older than that and is probably dated later, perhaps after 1906. As Macmillan has it, Russell’s reaction was to laugh “heartily” and say:
I was in bed that night between 10:30 and 11:00 P.M. However, some of the more radical ones might have been there, but I was not. Neither did I expect to be taken to heaven at that time, for I felt there was much work to be done preaching the Kingdom message to the peoples of the earth before the church would be taken away. [2]
One should dispose of the ascension-robe claim first. It was an old, often-repeated calumny. Everyone with clearly defined end-of-the age expectations was subject to it, though there is not one verifiable instance. It is especially out of place when applied to Russell. He expected a change to a spirit body, making any self-made ascension robe irrelevant. He understood the “white robes” of Revelation 6:11 to be symbolic, not literal. That he or any of the Pittsburgh believers dressed in robes is a newspaper reporter’s lie. The story delights Russell’s enemies who discount his denial, and others simply repeat it, believing it to be accurate because it saw print.
If Macmillan reports Russell’s belief that “there was much work to be done” and that he didn’t “expect to be taken to heaven at that time” with any sort of accuracy, then we must presume his doubts to have arisen in the last weeks before April 1878. Any time prior to the spring of 1878, we find Russell and Barbour believing with equal fervor that translation impended. [3] It is apparent that he believed and preached that translation was due. Taken as a whole, this seems a very unreliable report. But we come away from it noting two things: There was among the Pittsburgh brethren a “more radical” party; they were somewhat fragmented.
We see Macmillan’s claim that Russell did not expect translation and that he saw a vast field of work ahead as wrong. Russell wrote that “since 1878 (and never before that) we have felt at liberty to call God’s children out of the nominal churches to a position … where they would be free to serve Him fully.”[4] This clearly dates his vision of a vast work to after the disappointment. He also, as we shall see, expected translation in the spring of 1878.
[1] A. H. Macmillan: Faith on the March, Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, 1957, page 42.
[2] A. H. Macmillan: Faith on the March, page 27.
[3] C. T. Russell: A Conspiracy Exposed and Harvest Siftings, Zion’s Watch Tower, special edition, Apriil 25, 1894, pages 103-104. The Prospect, Herald of the Morning, July 1878, page 11.
[4] C. T. Russell: The Year 1881, Zion’s Watch Tower, May 1881, page 5.
Their public blog is here: http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
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Nathan Natas
Losingit, I've got quite a file on M. L. McPhail. Stuff like his FULL name, info on his family, his gravestone, the whole nine yards; some of his music, etc. I've even got some 'scandalous' information about his namesake son, who gained some fame of his own. Interested? YOU may be the next XJW publishing millionaire!
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Old Goat
Dear Nathan,
I'm interested. ... Very interested.
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mouthy
If anyone wants "You Can Live Forever in a Paradise Earth"(small edition or large edition too.
Or" Revelation" Its grand Climax At Hand"I will send them I will even pay the postage...