What use is God?

by punkofnice 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry

    Humanity is wholly a dependent species.

    Driven as it is by urges to eat, sleep, reproduce and love or hate---these aren't choices so much

    as they are compulsion driven by nature.

    Man is born with a kind of "pistol to the head" which is the very real threat of DEATH.

    Unless the parents feed and shelter an infant most certainly it cannot fend for itself.

    The premise of humanity is that SOMEBODY ELSE sees to it that you get enough of a good start. In this instance, parents.

    This impulse gets enlarged, eventually, to the DESIRE for SOMEBODY ELSE to see us through the "pistol to the head" scenario forever.

    My view is that we subconsciously work on our greatest problems even when we aren't consciously doing so.

    The most logical solution to the problem of certain death is a kind of "magic thinking".

    The proposition is: "What if SOMEBODY could change the outcome and I'll be rescued and never become extinct?"

    Voila! The rudimentary premise is GOD or gods.

    The next stage is the obvious: You can't get something for nothing!

    What do we OWE in return?

    Voila! Ritual performance of obeisance, worship, offerings, sacrifice, etc. etc

  • James Brown
    James Brown


    Here are some words of wisdom from the bible, the word of God.

    On the other hand according to the oldest text know to men, the summerian text.

    The Gods are space men and they mated with earths monkeys to make men.

    They made men to be used as slaves here on earth, because the space men were not well

    adapted to toil in this enviroment.

    They made us smart enough to work for them but not smart enough for most of us to figure that out.

    The space men have been gone for some time now. We are on our own, kind of like Johny Cash's "Boy named Sue".

    They did leave us the bible, to either follow or ignore.

  • HowTheBibleWasInvented

    The are many different religions with many different gods. Some religions like Buddism, Jedism,Taoism,Kopimism and Pana-wave do not need a God or Gods.

    It is a big fluke that the God of Israel (Yahweh/Jehovah) ended up becoming the god of more then 1/2 the world. We have Ezra to thank for enforcing monotheism and Paul for evangelizing Messinic-Judism to the Roman empire

  • tec

    .....it seems like the human race is in the process of solving it's own problems......isn't it?

    Seems to me the human race is pretty much the same as it ever has been... at the heart of each person at least.

    Technology/science is better and helps more people... but that same technology/science is also more powerful, and is used to hurt more people too.

    God is doing what exactly?

    God is still here; helping; listening; speaking... all through His Son.

    God seems rather want to show his boat race about this planet any more.

    I don't know what this sentence means, lol.

    What happened to good old fashioned miracles?

    Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.


    "A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah."

    The wicked and adulterous generation were the pharisees and such... those who asked for a sign, so that they could discredit Christ. Which is why the only miracle that some will accept now is an 'amputee's limb growing back'. There is no faith in asking for that... it is demanded to discredit.

    The miracles that He did perform were possible due to faith. Most people... including professed christians... don't even have the faith to know and believe that He is TRULY alive, and here, and speaking. That kind of faith and knowledge is freeing... and that kind of freedom can be a bit scary.

    You ask what use is God? Well, at the very least, the idea of God brings hope to people, and hope is a powerful thing.

    But God (rather than just the idea of God) - through His Son - does bring life, hope, and truth, strength, love, patience, joy, and help (as Christ DOES speak). Now if a person expects that this life is going to be peaches and cream because they believe in Christ and God, then that person is not listening. Because in this life, we are told that we WILL have trouble. Not because God is asleep at the wheel, but because as long as their exist people who don't care about others, who step ON others to gain things for themselves (man dominating and hurting his fellow man), who hurt others... either out of ignorance or simple selfishness, then we are going to have this world, made at the hands of the people in it.

    That will change when Christ comes and separates the sheep from the goats, after he has already gathered those who belong to Him. But there are still those who will turn, and repent, and come to life (Christ). This is why the wheat and the weeds grow together, so that none of the wheat is 'burnt up' with the weeds. Because some of what might be weeds (or that we think might be weeds) are wheat, and have not had a chance yet to come to life. So until that time, we have both growing together.

    So we are to wait, and remain in faith, until the appointed time. True, there are many who have gotten impatient and given up hope... just as Israel did when Moses went up the mountain, waiting for him to return, deciding that he was never coming back, and so built themselves a golden calf and sinned. (an example and foreshadowing in that, for us).

    But Christ IS here, and has not left us as orphans, just as He promised.

    Everything is playing out exactly as He said, and as God has seen it happen, including everything that is yet to come. In the meantime, we remain faithful, and also say "Come" to anyone who wishes to come to Christ and life, and LISTEN.

    As for us, just as in Revelation, John recorded what he heard:

    "This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus"


    "Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy. Behold I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!"

    So while God set the appointed time according to His wisdom (even though man thinks he seems to know when that should be)... there are still those who will be among the great crowd (saints/those who belong to Christ; their robes wached clean in the blood of the lamb), who are NOT numbered. Because that door is still open, which is a mercy, and not negligence.

    "The Spirit (Christ) and the Bride (all those who belong to Him - the 144 and the great crowd that is not numbered), say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life."



  • AndDontCallMeShirley

    Thor has been active lately. Lots of thunder and lightning in my area over the weekend.

  • Stealth

    It's a useful tool for the ruling class to control the masses.

  • punkofnice

    TEC -

    God seems rather want to show his boat race about this planet any more.
    I don't know what this sentence means, lol.

    Sorry, sweetie. Translation: God hasn't shown his face (boat race) around here.

    But Christ IS here, and has not left us as orphans, just as He promised.

    Well he doesn't seem to like me much.

  • mP

    Of course christ is here, the problem is nobody can see him and for lack of a kingdom he has done absolutely nothing.

  • tec

    Thanks for the translation, Punky ; )

    Well he doesn't seem to like me much.

    Sure He does. Or He would not bother calling to you at all.

    Please don't mistake trouble in your life (if that is what you are basing your sentiment on) as meaning Christ does not seem to like you much. This is something that is part of this world, as per what man has chosen to do with this world.

    Peace to you,


  • cantleave

    Boat Race = Face

    Since when did you become a cockney? You Cambridgeshire cockney wannabe.

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