JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes

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  • karter

    Steve2 is spot on.

    Bethelites are used to being like rock stars everywere they went they are treated like royality.

    After they are moved on from bethel they will go to a congro somewere and be welcomed with open arms.

    After a while they will just be a number in the congro and they have to get on with their life lie everyone else,The problem is they are not used to liveing like the rest of us,They have to budget to eat,power,phone,rent ect and most likley with little money behind them and if they are advanced in years little chance of getting a decent job.

    After a while they will realize the dream of liveing at Bethell for the rest of their lifes was just that,They will become John and jane publisher like the rest of them.

    Even if they are leaft out in the cold they will cling to whatever hope they can find...saddly for them it will not be at bethell like they thought.


  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    What page is that quote from in the Benefit from Theocratic Ministry School Education publication, please?

  • joe134cd

    I was looking at one of the senior members of Bethel that was sold, and to be honest he looked like a bewildered and broken man. I think it had aged him as we'll. To be fair I have heard of some KH that have been built with apartments out the back for lay off victims. I bet even though the society shitted on them they still count it as a blessing that they were able to serve their for so many years, and even more blessed that they can now serve jehovah out in the field. Hey I'm just telling you the mind set.

  • mgmelkat

    After all those sales of their properties one would think they certainly have the money to pay them some sort of settlement!!! Oh well, they will be held accountable for their actions one day.
    1 John 3:17-18

    But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

    Matthew 25:37-40

    Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

  • Mary
    With all the wealth of watctower surely there must be something can be done for these people?

    And indeed their solution is to kick them to the curb before they get any older and let them fend for themselves. I also wondered how the hell they can be 'laying off' middle-aged Bethelites and pointing them out the back door while at the same time begging for new younger recruits through the front door. It's not like you get a great paycheque or anything.

    The only thing I can think of is that Crooklyn needs people with skills now. That means they need computer programmers, constructional engineers, electricians, mechanics, technicians, doctors, nurses and all the lawyers they can get. The 56 year old Bethelite who was first mentioned in this thread, was 19 when he entered Bethel and that would have been in 1976. Virtually no Witnesses would have had any marketable skills when they entered those doors in '76 and they never developed any. Fast-forward 37 years and you've got a scene right out of an Austin Powers movie where they're still living life like it was 30+ years ago without realizing the world has changed. You could call it: The Cult That Shagged Me.

    I sincerely doubt they're given any kind of a settlement when they're handed the dreaded pink slip, or if it they are, it's absolutely minimal. When Ray Franz was given the boot, I think they gave him $10,000 and he had been a member of the Governing Body. I can't see them giving a damn about a lower ranking Bethelite......

  • JW_Researcher

    Oculos Aperire wrote "[the Bethel application asked] 'Have you ever smoked Marijuana?' Well I had.. so I never got accepted or even considered."

    I also was seduced by the evil weed (and similar evil pursuits), disclosed it on the application, and was accepted. While at Brooklyn, I met many who had similarly been cannabis-corrupted (although not certain whether they disclosed it or not).

    Marijuana use (and worse) didn't seem to be a disqualifier.... at least not in the early 1980s and at least not in my case.

  • sir82
    I sincerely doubt they're given any kind of a settlement when they're handed the dreaded pink slip, or if it they are, it's absolutely minimal.

    <Snort> Settlement!

    Here's your "settlement": "Keep warm and well fed, brother. Security will escort you to the door."

    The "lucky" ones get reassigned as special pioneers, where they get $600 per month and free gasoline and health care - IF they make their 120 / 130 hours per month.

    The unlucky ones are just "regular" pioneers, depending on the generosity of JWs who own businesses who are willing to hire 50 year-olds as unskilled labor.

  • Oculos Aperire
    Oculos Aperire

    I got seduced my a whole lot more then the evil weed..

  • Mary

    Here's something every ex-Bethelite should buy:

  • Londo111

    Yadda Yadda:

    For the quote: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102001125#p36

    See subheading: “THIS GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM”

    It is somewhere between pages 272 and 281.

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