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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-07-2013 WT Study (MAY 15, 2013, pages 3-7)(ROLE EVANGELIZER)

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    FULFILL YOUR ROLE

    AS AN EVANGELIZER

    “Do the work of

    an evangelizer, fully

    accomplish your

    ministry.”—2 TIM. 4:5.

    HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?

    What is an evangelizer?

    Why do people need to hear

    the good news?

    What do successful

    evangelizers do?

    OPENING COMMENTS

    This article shows that the WTS is aware of the sham evangelizing done by many jws. Is that because jws can only serve for a date? The words “successful” (4 times) and “effective” (8 times) pop up often.

    What is a role? Is it a way of life? Or only something done 10 hours a month/the unofficial monthly hourly goal for jws? The WTS puts 4 presentations in every monthly KM…how many times is “good news” in that introduction? How often are jws directed to say “Jehovah” or “Jehovah God” or is it always “God”? You’d be surprised that in 48 sample presentations each in the KM, not once are jws directed to use God’s name.

    What is the good news according to the WTS? Do non-jws realize that the destruction of wickedness on earth means the destruction of over 7.5 billion non-jws, men, women, and children, even ones in the womb.

    *** w88 1/1 p. 16 par. 10 The Last Days—A Time of Harvest ***

    Yes, all mankind is being scrutinized to see who are “sheep” and who are “goats.” How is this examining work accomplished? In John’s vision, “the harvest of the earth” is reaped in conjunction with powerful messages proclaimed by angels. One angel declares a message of “everlasting good news.” Another announces the fall of “Babylon the Great.” And a third warns against worship of “the wild beast,” Satan’s political system of things. (Revelation 14:6-10) True, nobody has heard the actual voices of these angels. But they have heard corresponding messages being uttered by faithful humans. (Matthew 24:14; Isaiah 48:20; Zechariah 2:7; James 1:27; 1 John 2:15-17) So, clearly, the messages are broadcast by human mouthpieces under angelic direction. A person is identified as a ‘sheep’ or as a ‘goat’ by the way he responds to the angelic messages. During this 20th century, only Jehovah’s Witnesses have cooperated with the angels in this vital work.

    *** w88 1/1 p. 26 par. 5 Keep On Preaching the Kingdom ***

    Similarly today, the preaching of the good news as “a witness to all the nations” is a basis for judgment. The apostle Paul makes this clear when he states that Christ Jesus will bring vengeance upon “those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” (2 Thessalonians 1:8, 9) People will be judged by their response to the good news. Hence, the preaching work must continue loud and clear right to the end. (Revelation 14:6, 7)

    And who only are those who know and obey?

    *** w89 9/1 p. 19 par. 7 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium ***

    Only Jehovah’s Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil. (Revelation 7:9-17; 2 Corinthians 4:4) They will make up the “flesh” that Jesus Christ said would be saved through the worst tribulation of all human history.

    START OF ARTICLE

    1. Why can Jehovah be called the first and foremost Evangelizer?

    AN EVANGELIZER is someone who tells good

    news. The first and foremost Evangelizer is Jehovah

    God. Immediately after the rebellion of our first parents,

    Jehovah announced the good news that the

    serpent—actually, Satan the Devil—will be destroyed.

    (Gen. 3:15) Throughout the centuries, Jehovah inspired

    faithful men to write down details about how

    his name will be cleared of reproach, how the damage

    caused by Satan will be undone, and how humans

    can regain the opportunities forfeited by Adam

    and Eve.

    First and foremost Evangelizer is Jehovah—Where is Jesus?

    Did Adam and Eve share with their children and grandchildren, that the serpent, Satan the Devil, would be destroyed? So did Noah preach to people of his time about the good news about the destruction of Satan; did Lot preach to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah about the same? Not until Job’s day 1657 BCE….Good news declared prior to that by Noah? Did Job know?

    *** si p. 95 Bible Book Number 18—Job ***

    Time Covered: Over 140 years between 1657 and 1473 B.C.E.

    Then term “devil” does not even appear in the NWT until the OT.

    2. (a) What part do angels play in connection with the evangelizing

    work? (b) What standard did Jesus set for evangelizers?

    2 Angels too are evangelizers. They themselves tell

    good news, and they assist others in spreading good

    news. (Luke 1:19; 2:10; Acts 8:26, 27, 35; Rev. 14:6)

    What about the archangel Michael? While on earth

    as Jesus, he set the standard for human evangelizers.

    Why, Jesus built his life around spreading the good

    news!—Luke 4:16-21.

    How do many jws understand the angels “helping”: performing miracles by send jws to homes of people who just prayed to God; individual jws being protected in the preaching.

    Do angels speak to individual witnesses as Luke 1:19 and 2:10 says? Or telling jws what houses or people to call on as Acts 8:26,27,35 says?

    What about a man I knew who had witnesses place books with him and said they would come back…then 4 years later he as the witness if he was really coming back because the last 3 said the same and never came back. Where were the angels?

    Does God promise individual protection per the WTS?

    *** w08 9/15 p. 9 par. 8 Jehovah Is “the Provider of Escape” for Us ***

    As individuals, we know that our immediate physical protection is not guaranteed. We take the position expressed by the three faithful Hebrews who refused to bow down to King Nebuchadnezzar’s image of gold. Those God-fearing young men did not presume that Jehovah would miraculously protect them from physical harm. (Read Daniel 3:17, 18.) As matters turned out, Jehovah did deliver them from the flames of the fiery furnace. (Dan. 3:21-27) Even in Bible times, however, miraculous deliverance was the exception rather than the rule. Many faithful servants of Jehovah died at the hands of opposers.—Heb. 11:35-37.

    And where is the scriptural proof that Michael is Jesus in this article? Is it a indisputable fact now?

    *** it-2 p. 393 Michael ***

    Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host.

    *** g02 2/8 p. 17 Who Is Michael the Archangel? ***

    Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term “archangel” in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.

    Did Jesus preach about the good news the whole 33.5 years of his life on earth or only from 29 to 33 CE, 3.5 years?

    3. (a) What is the good news that we spread? (b) What questions

    are of interest to us as evangelizers?

    3 Jesus commanded his disciples to be evangelizers.

    (Matt. 28:19, 20; Acts 1:8) The apostle Paul urged

    his coworker Timothy: “Do the work of an evangelizer,

    fully accomplish your ministry.” (2 Tim. 4:5) What

    is the good news that we as Jesus’ followers spread?

    It includes the reassuring truth that our heavenly Father,

    Jehovah, loves us. (John 3:16; 1 Pet. 5:7) A key

    way that Jehovah God expresses his love is through

    his Kingdom. Therefore, we gladly tell others that all

    who submit to Kingdom rule, obey God, and do what

    is righteous can have a relationship with him as his

    friends. (Ps. 15:1, 2) In fact, it is Jehovah’s purpose

    to do away with all unjust suffering. He

    will also remove the pain caused by

    memories of past suffering. What good

    news! (Isa. 65:17) Since we are evangelizers,

    let us consider the answers to two

    important questions: Why is it vital that

    people hear the good news today? And

    how can we successfully fulfill our role

    as evangelizers?

    Actually, Jesus said his followers would be witnesses of Jesus (not Jehovah).

    What was the good news that Christians (named such by divine providence, not jws) preached?

    The good news about the Christ

    The good news about the kingdom

    How many times do the sample presentations use “kingdom”? 6/11 2 times…

    “voluntarily” submit?

    Obey God = obey the organization

    *** w11 7/15 p. 28 par. 16 God’s Rest—What Is It? ***

    We can enter into Jehovah’s rest—or join him in his rest—by obediently working in harmony with his advancing purpose as it is revealed to us through his organization.

    *** w10 4/15 p. 10 par. 12 Holy Spirit’s Role in the Outworking of Jehovah’s Purpose ***

    By being obedient and loyal to the direction received from the earthly part of God’s organization, you show that you are keeping pace with Jehovah’s celestial chariot and are working in harmony with his holy spirit.—Heb. 13:17.

    *** w88 4/1 p. 31 Is Obedience Always Proper? ***

    When our heavenly Father, Jehovah God, speaks, whether through his Word, the Bible, or through his earthly organization, it is all the more important for us to listen and obey , thus proving that we are obedient worshipers who do not ignore the loving reminder: “Did you hear me?”

    Relationship with God = where’s Jesus? The WTS only mentions a general relationship with Jesus 3 times…the rest are specifically regarding the anointed and not many of those.

    What is “just” suffering? The little children who died during the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, and Armaggedon, eternal destruction?

    WHY DO PEOPLE NEED

    TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS?

    4. What untrue stories are people sometimes

    told regarding God?

    4 Imagine being told that your father

    has abandoned you as well as the rest of

    your family. Suppose those who claimed

    to know him say that he was aloof, secretive,

    and cruel. Some might even have

    you believe that it is no use trying to

    reestablish contact with your father because

    he is dead. In effect, many are

    told similar stories about God. They are

    taught that God is a mystery, that he is

    unknowable, or that he is cruel. For example,

    some religious leaders claim that

    God will punish bad people forever in

    a place of torment. Others attribute to

    God the suffering caused by natural disasters.

    Although these events kill good

    people as well as bad, they are said to be

    punishment from God.

    This analogy stinks…this is how things work in the congregations…those claiming to know a person say bad things about him/her. That you should not have contact with them (df) because they would have been put to death under the Law (unless you are David).

    The WTS teaches that God will punish children with eternal death because their parents sinned.

    But God has destroyed people with floods, fire, windstorms, disease, earthquakes (Korah, children died too). What about the 70,000 killed for David’s sin? Were all 70,000 bad? Did God do it to David, did he die, did any of his family die?

    *** w88 4/1 p. 31 Is Obedience Always Proper? ***

    When our heavenly Father, Jehovah God, speaks, whether through his Word, the Bible, or through his earthly organization, it is all the more important for us to listen and obey, thus proving that we are obedient worshipers who do not ignore the loving reminder: “Did you hear me?”

    (1 Chronicles 21:7-15) 7 Now this thing was bad in the eyes of the [true] God, and so he struck down Israel. 8 Consequently David said to the [true] God: “I have sinned very much in that I have done this thing. And now, please, cause your servant’s error to pass away; for I have acted very foolishly.” 9 And Jehovah proceeded to speak to Gad, David’s visionary, saying: 10 “Go, and you must speak to David, saying, ‘This is what Jehovah has said: “There are three things that I am directing against you.Choose for yourself one of them, that I may do it to you.”’” 11 Accordingly Gad went in to David and said to him: “This is what Jehovah has said, ‘Take your pick, 12 whether for three years there is to be a famine; or for three months there is to be a sweeping away from before your adversaries and for the sword of your enemies to overtake [you], or for three days there is to be the sword of Jehovah, even pestilence, in the land, with Jehovah’s angel bringing ruin in all the territory of Israel.’ And now see what I should reply to the One sending me.” 13 So David said to Gad: “It is very distressing to me. Please, let me fall into the hand of Jehovah, for very many are his mercies; but into the hand of man do not let me fall.” 14 Then Jehovah gave a pestilence in Israel, so that out of Israel seventy thousand persons fell. 15 Moreover, the [true] God sent an angel to Jerusalem to bring ruin to it; and as soon as he began bringing the ruin, Jehovah saw it and began to feel regret over the calamity; and so he said to the angel that was bringing the ruin: “It is enough! Now let your hand drop.” And Jehovah’s angel was standing close by the threshing floor of Or′nan the Jeb′u·site.

    *** w69 3/15 p. 191 Questions From Readers ***

    As a punishment for this sin Jehovah brought three days of pestilence that killed 70,000 Israelites. (2 Sam. 24:12-16) Was that unjust? Were 70,000 innocent people dying for the king’s error? The Bible plainly shows that we all are sinners deserving of death; it is only by God’s undeserved kindness that we live. (Rom. 3:23; 6:23; Lam. 3:22, 23) So those who died had no special “right” to life. Additionally, can any human today say for sure that those 70,000 were not guilty of some serious sin not mentioned in the historical record?

    5, 6. How have the theory of evolution and

    false doctrines affected people?

    5 Others assert that God does not exist.

    In this regard, consider the theory

    of evolution. Many who champion

    it declare that life came about without

    any intelligent direction. They claim that

    there is no Creator. Some have even said

    that a human is just another animal,

    so it should come as no surprise when

    a person acts in an animalistic fashion.

    They argue that the strong who cruelly

    dominate the weak are just following so-called

    laws of nature. So it is not surprising

    that many believe that injustice will

    always be with us. Therefore, those who

    put faith in evolution are robbed of true

    hope.

    When jws disobey God and are only worried if humans see them, are they proclaiming they believe God exists?

    (Ezekiel 8:12) 12 And he proceeded to say to me: “Have you seen, O son of man, what the elderly ones of the house of Israel are doing in the darkness, each one in the inner rooms of his showpiece? For they are saying, ‘Jehovah is not seeing us. Jehovah has left the land.’”

    (James 2:19) 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.

    “Others assert”

    Many

    They claim

    They argue

    WHO are these person?

    6 Without doubt, the theory of evolution

    and false doctrines have contributed

    to the misery that mankind has

    experienced during the last days. (Rom.

    1:28-31; 2 Tim. 3:1-5) These human

    teachings have brought no real and lasting

    good news. Instead, as the apostle

    Paul notes, they have left people “in

    darkness mentally, and alienated from

    the life that belongs to God.” (Eph. 4:

    17-19) In addition, the theory of evolution

    and false doctrines have hindered

    people from accepting the good news

    originating with God.—Read Ephesians

    2:11-13.

    Without doubt – where is the WTS proof?

    False doctrines of the WTS causing misery

    No organ transplants from 1967 to 1980: jws who died during that period having refused a transplant

    Allowing fractions – jws who died prior to that

    Women/men who divorced their homosexual/lesbian mates before the light shone and were df’d

    That jws could not accept community service in lieu of military service and spent years in prison

    Who are in darkness mentally then – the WTS

    7, 8. What is the only way that people can fully

    grasp the good news?

    7 To become reconciled to God, people

    must first be convinced that Jehovah

    exists and that there are good reasons

    for drawing close to him. We can

    help them to gain that knowledge by

    encouraging them to examine creation.

    When people study creation with an

    open mind, they learn of God’s wisdom

    and power. (Rom. 1:19, 20) In an effort

    to help people develop a sense of awe

    when they think about what our Grand

    Creator has accomplished, we can use

    the two brochures Was Life Created? and

    The Origin of Life—Five Questions Worth

    Asking. Even so, those who learn only

    from creation will not find answers to

    some of life’s most perplexing questions,

    such as these: Why does God allow

    suffering? What is God’s purpose

    for the earth? Does God care about me

    as an individual?

    Convinced God exists – see paragraph above – do their actions prove it?

    Study creation with an open mind or an empty head?

    Brochures mentioned online

    http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/?start=24

    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/lv/r1/lp-e/0/19425

    Why does God kill innocent children for the sins of their parents?

    (Ezekiel 18:20) 20 The soul that is sinning—it itself will die. A son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father, and a father himself will bear nothing because of the error of the son. Upon his own self the very righteousness of the righteous one will come to be, and upon his own self the very wickedness of a wicked one will come to be.

    8 The only way that people can fully

    grasp the good news about God and his

    purpose is by studying the Bible. What

    a privilege we have to help people find

    answers to their questions! To reach the

    heart of our listeners, though, we need to

    do more than inform them of facts; we

    must persuade them. (2 Tim. 3:14) We

    can become more persuasive by following

    Jesus’ example. Why was he so successful?

    One reason is that he used questions

    effectively. How can we imitate

    him?

    Shouldn’t the bible be the source, not a publication by imperfect humans? Does the WTS claim that its publications are inspired?

    Does the WTS study the bible or WTS publications with a scripture snippet or citation on the side?

    Yes, don’t confuse them with the facts.

    SUCCESSFUL EVANGELIZERS USE

    QUESTIONS EFFECTIVELY

    9. If we are to help people in a spiritual way,

    what must we do?

    9 Why should we, like Jesus, use questions

    in the evangelizing work? Well,

    consider this scenario: Your doctor tells

    you that he has good news. He can cure

    your illness if you undergo serious surgery.

    You might believe him. But what

    if he makes that promise even before

    he asks you any questions about your

    health? Then it is unlikely that you will

    have confidence in him. No matter how

    talented the doctor may be, he needs to

    ask questions and listen to what your

    symptoms are before he can give any

    meaningful help. Similarly, if we are to

    help people accept the good news of the

    Kingdom, we must master the art of asking

    effective questions. Only after we

    gain a clear picture of their spiritual condition

    can we assist them.

    Scenario = analogy = illustration

    Reminds me how elders (and other jws) come up to people at the KH and ask “How are you?” and never wait to hear your answer. Do they want to positively know the appearance of the flock? Or judge you based on the imperfect information of other humans and come to you with a diagnosis. Do the elders ask effective questions or accusatory questions not having heard the matter from your side?

    (Proverbs 18:13) 13 When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears [it], that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation.

    (James 2:14-16) . . .15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it?

    10, 11. What may we be able to accomplish by

    imitating Jesus’ way of teaching?

    10 Jesus knew that well-chosen questions

    not only help a teacher learn

    about a student but also get the listener

    involved in the discussion. For example,

    when Jesus wanted to teach

    his disciples a lesson in humility, he

    first put a thought-provoking question

    to them. (Mark 9:33) To teach Peter how

    to reason on principles, Jesus asked

    him a multiple-choice question. (Matt.

    17:24-26) On another occasion, when Jesus

    wanted to draw up what was in the

    heart of his disciples, he asked a series

    of viewpoint questions. (Read Matthew

    16:13-17.) By using questions and making

    statements, Jesus did more than impart

    facts. He touched hearts, motivating

    people to act in harmony with the good

    news.

    Isn’t using multiple-choice question telling them how you want them to think, your way?

    Isn’t starting with the facts mandatory…how can you reason on lies and wrong information?

    In harmony with the WTS organization = good news

    *** w12 7/15 p. 26 par. 15 “Of Whom Shall I Be in Dread?” ***

    Acting in harmony with this prayer means paying careful attention to any Bible-based direction that we receive through Jehovah’s organization and applying it at once.

    11 When we imitate Jesus by using

    questions effectively, we do at least three

    things. We discover how we can best

    help people, we overcome potential conversation

    stoppers, and we teach humble

    ones how they can benefit themselves.

    Consider three scenarios showing how

    we can use questions to good effect.

    Conversation stoppers = a euphemism that WTS now uses for “objections”

    *** km 10/10 p. 1 par. 2 “Do Not Be Afraid” ***

    Adequate preparation can do much to allay our fears. For instance, if we review in advance potential conversation stoppers, we will be prepared to answer common objections. (Prov. 15:28) Why not use practice sessions during Family Worship to prepare for various challenges at school and in the ministry?—1 Pet. 3:15.

    12-14. How can you help a child to be more

    confident about sharing the good news? Give

    an example.

    12 Scenario 1: As a parent, what would

    you do if your teenage child expressed

    concern about being able to defend his

    belief in creation when talking with a

    classmate? No doubt you would want to

    help him to be confident about sharing

    the good news. So rather than criticizing

    him or immediately offering advice,

    why not imitate Jesus’ example and ask

    some viewpoint questions? How could

    you do so?

    How many parents are equipped to make an effective answer to people at the door, work, neighbors but avoid the issue by saying they will research and come back and do not come back?

    Obviously, the same old problem is cropping up again, jw children respond “I believe this way because my parents say I should” or “I believe this way because I am a jw” but have to concrete scriptural explanation.

    The WTS made a point about teach children about blood transfusions because of teenagers not being equipped to express a personal opinion only their parents’ or the organization’s.

    *** w98 3/15 p. 19 par. 4 Living Up to Christian Dedication in Freedom ***

    In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, “the Society teaches,” many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, “the Bible says” or, “I understand the Bible to teach.” In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect.

    PICTURE: To reach the heart of

    our listeners, we must

    persuade them

    13 After reading with your child portions

    from the brochure The Origin of

    Life—Five Questions Worth Asking, you

    could ask what arguments he finds most

    thought provoking. Encourage him to

    discover his own reasons why he is persuaded

    to believe in a Creator and why

    he wants to do God’s will. (Rom. 12:2)

    Let your child know that his reasons do

    not have to be exactly the same as yours.

    Teach them from the bible or a publication…what did Jesus use, the scriptures or a man-made writing like the Talmud to teach his followers?

    Were they taught to parrot the words of the religious leaders even when they could see it did not come from the Torah?

    So what reasons can a jw have to believe in a creator that “do not have to be exactly the same as” their parents, the elders, the organization?

    14 Explain to your child that when

    talking with a classmate, your youngster

    could follow the pattern you have

    demonstrated. That is, he could review

    some facts and then ask leading or viewpoint

    questions. For instance, a classmate

    could be asked to read the box on

    page 21 of the Origin of Life brochure.

    Your child could then ask, “Is it true

    that the capacity of DNA for storing information

    still has no parallel in today’s

    computer age?” The classmate will likely

    answer yes. Then your child could ask,

    “If human computer technicians cannot

    achieve such results, how could mindless

    matter do so on its own?” To help

    your child become more comfortable

    when conversing with others about his

    faith, you can regularly conduct practice

    sessions with him. If you train him to use

    questions effectively, you will help him to fulfill his

    role as an evangelizer.

    Read the bible or read the box? Are jws teaching their children to parrot WTS reasoning or the bible?

    Regularly conduct practice sessions – do the parents practice?

    So is the child going to be given a script to use or their own trained reasoning? Will words be put in their mouths?

    Practice sessions…did Jesus conduct practice sessions, priming the pump so to speak?

    Follow the pattern you have demonstrated – so how many parents have talked to workmates or neighbors this way?

    15. How might we use questions in an effort to

    help an atheist?

    15 Scenario 2: In our witnessing work,

    we meet those who doubt that God exists.

    For example, a person might tell us

    that he is an atheist. Instead of letting

    that comment stop the conversation, we

    could respectfully askhow long he has

    been an atheist and what caused him

    to adopt that view. After listening to his

    answers and complimenting him on giving

    the matter serious thought, we could

    ask if he felt that it would be wrong to

    read material that presented evidence

    that life was created. If the householder

    is open-minded, he would likely say

    that it would be unreasonable to refuse

    to look at such evidence. We could then

    offer him either the brochure Was Life

    Created? or the one entitled The Origin of

    Life—Five Questions Worth Asking. Tactful

    questions, kindly asked, can act as a key

    that opens a person’s heart to the good

    news.

    Doubt God’s existence

    Why, because they have seen the bad behavior by those who claim to believe in his existence?

    Oy……I tried that tactic, how long, what caused to become an atheist.

    I was tactful, but my companion jw escalated into a shouting match, the PO and his superior training. Made me wondered if he shouted at jws in the congregation, other elders, his family.

    Are these viewpoint questions?

    1 How Did Life Begin? [page 4]

    2 Is Any Form of Life Really Simple? [page 8]

    3 Where Did the Instructions Come From? [page 13]

    4 Has All Life Descended From a Common Ancestor? [page 22]

    5 Is It Reasonable to Believe the Bible? [page 30]

    PICTURE: Effective questions . . .

    1. Help people to discover their own reasons for their beliefs.

    2. Open their mind and heart to accept the truth

    3. Help them to reasons so as to arrive at the correct conclusions

    16. Why should we not settle for having a Bible

    student read answers from a Bible study aid?

    1 help people to discover their

    16 Scenario 3: When conducting a Bible

    study, we might simply have the student

    repeat answers printed in a Bible

    study aid. If we do so, however, we could

    stunt the spiritual growth of the student.

    Why? Because a student who repeats answers

    without meditating on them is unlikely

    to grow deep spiritual roots. He

    could easily end up being like a plant

    that withers under the heat of opposition.

    (Matt. 13:20, 21) To help avoid that

    outcome, we need to ask our student

    how he feels about what he is learning.

    Try to discover if he agrees with the

    points made. More important, have him

    say why he agrees or disagrees. Then

    help him to reason on the Scriptures

    so that he will eventually be able to arrive

    at correct conclusions by himself.

    (Heb. 5:14) If we use questions effectively,

    individuals we teach are more likely

    to be solidly rooted in the faith and to

    be able to resist the efforts of those who

    would oppose or mislead them. (Col. 2:

    6-8) What else can we do to fulfill our

    role as evangelizers?

    we might simply have the student repeat answers printed in a Bible

    study aid---This is how studies are conducted now, for years

    Go to any KH and this is the pattern you will observe 1) read answers from study book/magazine 2) rearrange or substitute a few words 3) give a brief personal experience (audience thinks: oh no, there goes Sister Elderly again, stumbling through her past and conductor, gotta cut it short or we will go overtime 4) bring in an interesting point not covered in the material (elders have to counsel that person reminding them that the slave has provided all the food we need, nothing needs to be added

    Ask how he FEELS, by now the student knows there is only one right answer

    Can long time jws arrive at correction conclusions by themselves or are they running to the elders?

    The WTS cannot escape their past, being hung by their own words.

    Try to discover if he agrees

    Say why he agrees or disagrees

    Reason on the scriptures – or tell him what to think, that he cannot understand the bible without the organization

    Eventually be able to arrive at the correct conclusions by himself!

    SUCCESSFUL EVANGELIZERS

    ASSIST ONE ANOTHER

    17, 18. When accompanying someone in the

    ministry, how can we work as a team?

    17 Jesus sent his disciples out in the

    preaching work by twos. (Mark 6:7; Luke

    10:1) Later, the apostle Paul mentioned

    “fellow workers” who had “striven side

    by side with [him] in the good news.”

    (Phil. 4:3) In harmony with that Scriptural

    precedent, in 1953, Kingdom publishers

    began a program of training others in

    the ministry.

    Work by twos – before 1953, new jws would be sent off by themselves with no training, before 1940 there wasn’t even a formal individual bible study (indoctrination) session.

    My mother was in that training and they had to make up their own presentation using 7 scripture points…can you imagine how hard it was to find someone at the door willing to stand there and listen?

    18 When you accompany another

    Christian in the ministry, how can you

    work as a team? (Read 1 Corinthians 3:

    6-9.) In your Bible, look up the scriptures

    that your partner is using. Keep your attention

    turned to your partner and to the

    householder when either of them is talking.

    Follow the discussion closely in case

    there is a need for you to assist your partner

    to overcome an objection. (Eccl. 4:

    12) A word of caution, though: Resist the

    urge to interrupt your partner when he

    or she is using an effective line of reasoning.

    Your unrestrained enthusiasm

    might discourage your partner and confuse

    the householder. At times, it may

    be appropriate to join in the discussion.

    But if you choose to say something, limit

    yourself to a brief comment or two. Then

    allow your partner to resume the lead.

    Etiquette at the door when the other jw is talking…

    !Keep attention on your partner-- not thinking up your own points and taking the conversation off in another direction

    !Follow the discussion closely IN CASE there is a need for you to assist

    !Resist the urge to interrupt your partner…effective line of reasoning

    !Your unrestrained enthusiasm might discourage your partner and confuse the householder

    !Limit yourself to a brief comment or two

    I knew older jws that would only take carefully vetted other jws that would not interrupt

    No Genesis to Revelation publishers

    19. What do we do well to remember, and

    why?

    19 How can you and your partner assist

    each other while walking from door

    to door? Why not use the time to discuss

    ways that your presentation might

    be improved? Be careful that your comments

    about those living in your territory

    are not discouraging. Likewise, avoid

    the trap of harping on the negative traits

    of fellow evangelizers. (Prov. 18:24) We

    do well to remember that we are earthen

    vessels. Jehovah has shown us extraordinary

    kindness by entrusting us with

    the treasure of the ministry of the good

    news. (Read 2 Corinthians 4:1, 7.) So let

    all of us show appreciation for that treasure

    by doing our best to fulfill our role

    as evangelizers.

    Discuss what presentation – most jws I went with had no idea what was in the publications, used a presentation so simple, One sentence, 30 years in the using, perfect needing no adjustments

    What do you think this means?

    “Be careful that your comments about those living in your territory are not discouraging….”

    “avoid the trap of harping on the negative traits of fellow evangelizers”

    Yes, don’t call them goats or birdfood….

    *** w50 6/1 p. 176 Field Experience ***

    While group witnessing in Pasadena, California, finding very little interest, I came to a house on the corner. A goatish woman at the door cared more for her religious fodder than for the bread of life, so I went to a small house in the rear, and in response to my knock a voice answered, “Come in!” On entering I saw a man sitting in a wheel chair, his arms no longer than twelve inches, with no hands; his knee joints are at his hips, and his legs very short, and, of course, he is unable to walk. He was born that way. He at once recognized the Kingdom message as the truth, took three bound books, and later subscribed for The Watchtower and Awake!

    Don’t make the car a convenient time to discuss all the confidential stuff you’ve picked up, your guesses about the facts

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, ARE YOU “ZEALOUS FOR FINE WORKS”? What is the WTS definition of zealous? Where does their definition of works fit in?

    Love, Blondie

  • Sapphy
    Sapphy

    Thanks Blondie! I hope you are feeling better and managing the pain well.

    I always laugh at this quote:

    *** w98 3/15 p. 19 par. 4 Living Up to Christian Dedication in Freedom ***

    In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, “the Society teaches,” many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, “the Bible says” or, “I understand the Bible to teach.” In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect.

    "The society says" was background music to my childhood, not just from my own parents, but from my friends parents, from the kindgom and assembly halls too.

    "... avoid giving the true impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect."

    Fixed that for them.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Successful evangelist? Or, successful at wasting your time going into trash neighborhoods? I don't know how many times I was sent into dumpy areas in the territory. I have seen houses that look like rubbish dumps, and much in the way of poverty. The witlesses favor such conditions because they feel that such are more likely to join than those who are wealthy. And they thus think poverty is a virtue, programming people to believe that and attract more poverty in their souls. And that is what they are actually trying to do.

    Additionally, when people are not interested, they are NOT INTERESTED. Push the issue too much, and you could find yourself on the receiving end of a lawsuit. Or, in a paddy wagon. And, some people will get their guns, pepper spray, dogs, or whatever they can to fend off witlesses that are so pushy that they will not take no for an answer. It is sheer stupidity to continue pressing the issue once it is blatant that the householder is not interested in the scam.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Thanks Blondie,

    I wonder how you can do this every week, it is much appreciated.

    5 Others assert that God does not exist.

    In this regard, consider the theory of evolution. Many who champion

    it declare that life came about without any intelligent direction. They claim that

    there is no Creator. Some have even said that a human is just another animal,

    so it should come as no surprise when a person acts in an animalistic fashion.

    They argue that the strong who cruelly dominate the weak are just following so-called

    laws of nature. So it is not surprising that many believe that injustice will

    always be with us. Therefore, those who put faith in evolution are robbed of true hope.

    All I can say to who ever penned these words is "No Sh!T Sherlock" But the underlined part should read: "Therefore those who have done their homework and know that evolution is a proven fact will not be misled by a superstious beleif in an angry sky god that is going to destroy all nonbeleivers, and and delusional claims that he is running the Watchtower printing Corporation".

  • St George of England
    St George of England
    1. AN EVANGELIZER is someone who tells good news.

    Really? Not in any of the dictionaries that I checked.

    1. To peach the Gospel to

    2. To convert to Christianity

    Using their own dictionary again?

    George

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Thanks Blondie! I love this one:

    And where is the scriptural proof that Michael is Jesus in this article? Is it a indisputable fact now?

    *** it-2 p. 393 Michael ***

    Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God's Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be "the archangel," meaning "chief angel," or "principal angel." The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host.

    *** g02 2/8 p. 17 Who Is Michael the Archangel? ***

    Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term "archangel" in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to concludethat Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.

    Here is another good one:

    Army Leader.

    The Bible states that "Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels." (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions "the Lord Jesus" and "his powerful angels." (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and "his angels" and Jesus and "his angels." (Matthew 13:41) Since God's Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven-one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus-it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.

    I am really not sure how to even classify that argument... There is no scripture that says Jesus is Michael. Since it is not a verifiable fact, it does not meet the GB/FDS sanctioned definition of "truth" given at the DC. So why print it as such? Just keep repeating it over and over I guess....

    The CO at the " God's Word is Truth " DC, defined truth.

    The truth = Truthful understanding of God's Word.

    Truth:

    1) Does not change. Real truth remains truth.

    2) In the " world " truth changes. Man's predictions are often wrong.

    3) The prophets never stated probabilities or assumptions.

    4) The truth cannot contradict other " truth." Only one can be right.

    5) Truth is verifiable facts.

  • LoisLane looking for Superman
    LoisLane looking for Superman

    Hi Blondie, Thank you for doing another great job for us.

    You are Wonder Woman. lol

    I hope you are holding up OK with your knee pain.

    Just Lois

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    *** w88 4/1 p. 31 Is Obedience Always Proper? ***

    When our heavenly Father, Jehovah God, speaks, whether through his Word, the Bible, or through his earthly organization, it is all the more important for us to listen and obey, thus proving that we are obedient worshipers who do not ignore the loving reminder: "Did you hear me?"

    Again, no mention of Christ Jesus. It's true that saying " God's Word " would included Christ's teachings, but why not say it? Christians are commanded in God's word to honor the Son as you honor the Father! Jw's do not do that. They made sure to mention the Organization, of course. Interestingly, according to the doctrine of the Governing Body, only 1 of these entities is fallible. Can you guess which one? Yet only one will expell you from the congregation for questoning ideas and speculations that it originates..

    1) Almighty GOD

    2) Yeshua/Christ Jesus

    3) The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society inc.

  • SAHS
    SAHS

    “DATA-DOG”:

    “1) Almighty GOD

    2) Yeshua/Christ Jesus

    3) The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society inc.”

    In actuality, after peeking at “the man behind the curtain” (the unclothed emperor), one can see that from the Watchtower’s mindset, the above organizational chart of authority and credibility really goes as follows:

    1) The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Inc.

    2) Almighty GOD, “Jehovah” (correctly spelled “W-a-t-c-h-t-o-w-e-r” – sockpuppet of item #1)

    3) Biblical prophets* and prominent forerunners in the modern-day development of the organization (WT presidents/vice-presidents, GB members, notable missionaries, etc.)

    ------

    * (Included among those prophets was that dude called “Yeshua/Christ Jesus.” He could rightly be ranked number 3 1/2 in the above list.)

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    LOL!! Sad but true....

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