Who are the REAL demons behind the Watchtower?

by Dogpatch 65 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Hi Pickler,

    You say,

    Thanks dog patch, I'm new to these forums, but have been out of TT for years. I'm blown away by the courage & strength of so many who have worked to expose what JW really is.

    It's not so much courage... I just have nothing to lose! Let them sue me! I would go ape shi$%^ for the opportunity to go public with nearly 40 years of their very embarrassing secrets! I am sure they would prefer to torture me, especially Gene Smalley. Personally, if I were him with his mindset, I would spend a small fortune to get rid of me. Imagine every Witness who gets online and types in his name! TRY IT.

    Gene Smalley y la Doctrina de Transfusión de Sangre de la Watchtower

    Gene Smalley e Doutrina da Torre de Vigia de Transfusão de Sangue

    Gene Smalley and the Watchtower's Blood Transfusion Doctrine

    http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=210:bethel-libraries&catid=132:barbara-anderson&Itemid=338

    Most Wanted Watchtower Leaders - For Crimes Against Humanity

    STOP being naive - the time has come to use your PRIMAL SENSES

    and many other articles by others.

    I tend to be relentless and follow you like a wolverine if you hurt others I love. Even if it takes 30 years to cut your balls off. But I'll let you live. Just get out of our faces!

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    sd7 sez,

    Good to hear you're moving forward. I noticed someone commented on your link to the 'Franz Incident', I believe, and seemed to doubt what you'd said about the Bethel purge, if you will. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't observed how my family handled my awakening firsthand...they can be very vicious and very cold about it all.

    You are referring to this subject:

    http://www.randallwatters.org/randypt2.htm

    and "The Franz Incident"

    http://www.randallwatters.org/exjws/bethel/incident.htm

    other important links:

    The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society:

    The Critical Years 1975-1997

    http://www.randallwatters.org/exjws/history/critical.htm

    My disassociation letter to the Governing Body:

    http://www.randallwatters.org/exjws/history/gbletter.htm

    (this is where you get a glimpse of the leadership behind closed doors... but you had to be a Bethel Elder to get inside, and no recordings! (they did away with Bethel elders a few years ago... but I wrote down nearly every word that was said out of disbelief). Bethel elders had more power than Circuit Overseers, because the GB lived with them and could hurt them if necessary.

    POLITICAL CARTOONS

    http://www.randallwatters.org/exjws/bethel/toons/graffiti.htm

    Here is a HEAP of articles that will keep you up at night: (Have a beer first)

    http://www.randallwatters.org/Bethel/bethel.htm

    and the two best of all:

    Warren Schroeder Brooklyn Bethelite from 1979-1982

    http://www.randallwatters.org/Bethel/WarrenSchroeder.htm

    Bless his heart, Warren had some real cohones.

    I wish I had known him when I was there.

    I worked in the pressroom with all the BA's. (Bad Attitudes)

    (What do you expect from a 60s hippie?)

    http://www.randallwatters.org/randypt1.htm

    I never kissed anyone's ass there. It would be a dishonor to all hippies everywhere!! (Plus counter-revolutionaries and other anarchists). I would have to bow my head in shame!

    I just knew how to get ahead into key positions (and I think I had some help from above.) My dad tought me that, who is much better than Jehovah:

    http://freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2458:why-my-dad-was-better-than-jehovah&catid=8:randys-blog&Itemid=571

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I understand that the board of directors, the guys who own wt stock, are outside elders, and they are the ones who come in for the annual meetings. Are you saying that those are NOT the guys w the real powers, that the real powers were/are a few bethel heavies and such guys as knorr and freddie franz?

    S

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Thank you Gladiator,

    and Terry!

    My dad taught me the relative value of having a lot of money. Life is short, enjoy it and share it with others. Even if you are a lot different than them. If you can make someone smile, you have all the rewards you need in this life.

    Heathen sez,

    wicked men and imposters sounds like it to me , look at the latest change in the FDS dogma , unbelievable to blatantly dodge accountability like that . I believe at some point the church was interested in finding the truth but I agree with you that they became corrupted by the ring of power , shall we say .. my precious ..........

    ...and don't get on me for believing in Jesus. I was a hippie Jesus Freak in the 60s. We invented the culture. And we didn't need the bible or churches, either. It was a memetic leap in social consciousness. Sort of like John Lennon, only not atheistic. Who cared what each other believed? My girlfriend was into Edgar Cayce and I was into dinosaurs and Egypt.

    Did we stop and ask ourselves what God thought of our "morality?

    NO!

    We knew he was on our side. :-))

    We didn't go around starting wars and climbing our way into power positions and building empires. We built communes and put flowers in yer hair!

    But we did ride motorcycles and hunt jackrabbits!

    My Life Before Jehovah’s Witnesses

    My nickname was Toadman and I named one of my many cars Martha the Elephant.

    It was mainly used on Halloween for egg fights in our neighborhood clan of hoodlums.

    I bought it from the wholesalers when I was a Ford Tune-up mechanic in the late 60s for $50, as most of my cars.

    SEE HERE

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    My dad taught me the relative value of having a lot of money. Life is short, enjoy it and share it with others. Even if you are a lot different than them. If you can make someone smile, you have all the rewards you need in this life.

    Hi Randy:

    Thanks for this thread. I was going to start a new thread on 'how do you deal with poverty?' After reading about your and Terry's financial/medical difficulties, I take heart. I grew up poor and may die poor. C'est la guerre.

    Your words above are those of my own parents.

    Thanks for believing in me and my crazy writing. Agreed with Terry: if you have any spare change, give it to Free Minds. I've never forgotten your help and my wish to return the favor (but the money's gone!).

    Blessings and peace.

    CoCo

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    One particular demon comes to mind

  • NoRegrets
    NoRegrets

    Great to hear from you Randy! Your articles on Free Minds were some of the first I thrived on upon first getting out. It was so great to get the reinforcement of what I had been a part of of but never really understood. Hang tough and keep fighting the real "fine fight"!

    No Regrets

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Coco, I still want you.

    My dad taught me to give to others without thought of return, if they are trustwortly. Jesus taught me I had to give it away.

    I don't argue with Him! OR the Holy Spirit.

    "Jehovah," however, can take a long hike and never come back.

    a "few" years ago. LOL

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Thanks NoRegrets!

    Satanus, you evil thang,

    you say,

    Post 21184 of 21185
    Since 8/31/2001

    I understand that the board of directors, the guys who own wt stock, are outside elders, and they are the ones who come in for the annual meetings. Are you saying that those are NOT the guys w the real powers, that the real powers were/are a few bethel heavies and such guys as knorr and freddie franz?

    Well Knorr and Franz were certainly the heaviest (Knorr literally). Knorr was probably 230 lbs.

    No, they are mostly still in charge at Bethel!

    SURPRISE!!

    First there is the devil...

    OK just kidding. Even he wouldn't stoop to their level.

    None of them are on the GB and never will be.

    They use the GB like puppets to run their big fantabulous organization.

    They don't WANT to be known... think of secret Catholic power circles from the Middle Ages.

    Or modern Bishops who shuffle pedophiles around to sample many churches.

    Evil thrives on many levels of secrecy, and they are one of the very few organizations in this world who has been able to keep such secrets.

    Cardinal Mahoney is of the same nature... an amazing comparison actually.

    They are the "Illuminatis" on the Watchtower's boards of directors. Uh, who is the President?

    Who made HIM president, and WHY?

    That is ABOVE the Governing Body.

    Randy

  • clarity
    clarity

    Looking great Randy ...so glad that you are feeling better

    >

    You are my hero ... when I started researching..

    the first words I read were yours!

    >

    So hard to keep up with all the info that you have put

    on the net ......... "food at the proper time" !!

    >

    Thanks for all your work, blood sweat & tears throughout

    the years!

    >

    Watchtower's days are fading away .... it's just a shell of what

    it was...... an entity, trying to suck the last bit of life out of

    an atrophied 'bag of bones'!

    >

    Randy, I would love a succinct, direct answer to Satanus's question,

    would you be so kind as to put our minds at rest on this one?

    >

    Are you saying that those are NOT the guys w the real powers, that the real powers were/are a few bethel heavies and such guys as knorr and freddie franz?

    best wished always

    clarity

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