Something From Nothing: Richard Dawkins & Lawrence Krauss

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  • frankiespeakin

    It's all just "information" according to physics:

    4.8 Conclusions about Information and Quantum Physics

    Because the human experience most analogous to quantum probability waves is the imagination of hypothetical futures, the attribution of information and mental properties to the quantum domain may be irresistible. Stapp (2009, p. 195) described the quantum domain as “idealike” rather than “matterlike.” He pointed out that the basic properties of the quantum domain are represented by potentialities and probabilities, and the actual outcomes that are manifest appear to be selected in a way not controlled by any known mechanical law. The interconnectedness in the quantum domain that supports entanglement and delayed-choice apparently has a means to incorporate all the relevant factors, conditions, and possibilities in a given situation, even though the factors and conditions may be spread over space and time, and the possibilities may be potential or hypothetical events.

    Because this interconnectedness does not involve any known energy, the closest analogy appears to be information. As might be expected, the term information is increasingly used in discussions of quantum physics (e.g., Bohm & Hiley, 1993; Greenstein & Zajonc, 2006; Schlosshauer, 2007; Zurek, 2003b).

    However, as yet there has been virtually no consideration of media, symbols, or interpretational infrastructure for the quantum domain. Theoreticians such as Bohm (Bohm & Hiley, 1993) who attribute to the quantum domain a prominent role for information appear to be using the term information as a label for unknown and basically incomprehensible processes. Bohm’s assumption that a particle has a “rich and complex inner structure which can respond to information” (Bohm & Hiley, 1993, p. 39) and that “a rudimentary mind-like quality is present even at the level of particle physics” (p. 386) is attributing to particles the information processing capabilities of life. The analogies he offers to help clarify his ideas about information on the quantum level all involve living systems (seeds, people, ships guided by people). However, the theory does not attempt to identify or describe the medium or interpretational infrastructure in the quantum domain that functions as if there was instantaneous transfer of nonlocal information.

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  • Viviane

    It is possible that there always was time, but

    only since the 'beginning', stuff started moving through it.

    Time and space are the same thing, much like energy and matter.

  • prologos

    yeah, but you can go forward backward, sideways left and right, up and down, in SPACE along it,s three dimensions, axi, but

    ONLY FORWARD in Time and that should tell you something. it is special*

    You can also stop in space, but not in time, unless your reach c, or an infinite mass environment.

    dont try to stop in the air in a plane, you'll stall, you might plan that though. google 'spin initiation'.

    *there was no movement through time before the beginning.

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  • prologos

    viviane, good comparison. movements throu space dimensions and MOVEMENT through time are related, if not the same thing.

    The faster you move through a space dimension. the slower you move through time

    The closer you are to space filled with mass, the slower you move through time

    You enter the speed of light, you lose one space dimension, and stop moving through time'

    If you dont exist in space, you exist only in time. (if at all)

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