Do Jehovah's Witnesses practice magic?

by kenpodragon 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    Do Jehovah's Witnesses practice magic?

    I think this is a question most people will see and go, "what is he talking about?" The thing is when scientist have studied cultures and seen how their Shaman have practiced magic, they have found that in many ways the men have used forms of meditation and prayer that relate close to the Christian prayer form. Let's take a quote from a typical Jehovah's Witness prayer about someone who has left their organization ...

    "... Jehovah please allow them to see the error of their way, let the world show them that it does not have anything to offer, so that this brings them back to your organization ..."

    ... so basically they are communicating with their higher power to do a few things. One, to have your life become terrible and desperate. They are asking their higher power to bring hardship from the universe upon you, so that you will return to what they have directed as the safe haven they have set up for you in their mind. Two, they have asked that their higher being blind your mind to your own wants and desires and place in it the desire to return to the very thing you have left.

    So are the Witnesses practicing magic? Well magic at its basic form is a means of asking energy, to direct or do what you ask of it. The ritual you use to do that, the deity you title that energy with, or the way in which it is phrase can vary across many forms of magic. The fact is though, the Witnesses are casting upon you things that you should be aware of. They are not just doing this on a one on one basic, but in circles of friends that agree to the terms when they make statements in prayer in group setting.

    So perhaps the answer to the question, are Witnesses practicing magic? Has a little more meaning to us now. Those little elder warlocks ;)

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    Excellent post Kenpo.

    Interesting contradiction that the "elders" who are supposed to be "appointed" and set the example for Christian love are the very ones wishing.. PRAYING for hardship to befall someone.

    If one is practicing a loving, wholesome, Christian lifestyle but is not a member of that organization, they are unequivocally judged as living a wicked, corrupt, deplorable existence. In their eyes, one cannot serve God and be worthy of life if they are not a member of that organization.

    A sickening observation for those who truly have their eyes open.

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  • Moxy
    Moxy

    i would expect that a witness would counter this by saying that they are merely asking for jehovah to let the natural consequences of their behaviour become apparent, rather than explicity causing them. it often amazes me how often god has to be called upon to allow the natural laws of cause-and-effect to keep working. eg 'please help us to study and learn about you...' what a powerful god whose acts largely consist of making sure things happen that would have likely happened anyway!

    mox

  • Doc_jedd
    Doc_jedd

    Just a thought : arn`t all religions practicing magic?
    ie: Supernatural beings, Prayer for supernatural power, Ritualistic practices, worshiping invisible powers, sacred books/ objects Etc.
    ...............Jedd seeing things he never saw before class

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    Kenpodragon,

    If the Witnesses are practicing magic then it seems their magic fails many, many times. As evidenced by the number of people who have left and continue to leave their organization.

    IW

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon
    arn`t all religions practicing magic?

    But are all religions asking for bad things to happen to people. That is dark magic.

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    Do jehovah's Witnesses practice magic?

    No.

    Do jehovah's Witnesses practice magick?
    Yes.

    Enochian Magick.

    The buzz is that Pastor Russell took young Aleister Crowley under his wing... and taught the young man ever thing he knew, especially about The Golden Dawn.

    "The Jellyfish & The Beast"

    .

  • chezza
    chezza

    Sometimes i would love to practice voodoo on some people who deserve it in the organization, i would make their genitals itchy while they are giving a talk or something so they have to scratch.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    It's only magic/spiritism when other religions than ones own, do it. Of course many christians (not all) use the same formula, applying to jws or to eastern adepts of energy manipulation, witches, shamans, advanced meditaters etc.

    SS

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

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    Good point btw Kenpo...a staff into a snake...water from a rock...the 10 plagues of Egypt...walking on water etc etc...was that not magic of sorts??

    When is it magic and when is it not in today's society??

    Beck

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