It's Official! The Governing Body IS the Faithful and Discreet Slave (Annual Meeting Report - jw.org)

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  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Ding: What I would like to know is why it took from 1919 until 2012 for the faithful and discreet slave to figure out that they are the faithful and discreet slave and that the rest of the 144,000 are not...

    Good question. Why don't you write in and ask them?

    Ding: Also, since there was no real GB until after Knorr died, who was the faithful and discreet slave until then? Russell, Rutherford, and Knorr individually?

    Not Russell. He died in 1916 and this "New Light" puts the FDS as starting in 1919. Russell is out!

  • atrapado
    atrapado

    Unbrainwashed publisher1 Jesus knew but he didn't trust his FD with confidential information. I think the GB has been slacking I remember there was knew light a lot more often before.

  • Unbrainwashed publisher1
    Unbrainwashed publisher1

    So all those interpretations of the ten virgins with oil waiting complete hogwash! Who have been feeding Gods people all this time? So now the Governing Body has all the power a word that is not even in the bible interesting!

  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry

    When David Splane in the video says:

    "What does all of this really mean?

    The great crowd and the anointed are all domstics. We are all domestics.

    And brothers, we love this teaching - we love this idea."

    Is this to understand that he himself and the other 6/7 of the GB consider themselves to be domestics now as well?

    And perhaps, a future 'faithful and discreet slave' will have to be defined yet?

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    sd-7: Anyway, it definitely boots all non-GB members from having any kind of authority.

    Not so. Apparently Rutherford & Knorr must've been the F&DS for a while all by themselves since the GB didn't exist until the '70s ... oh, wait, they've already starting revising their history on THAT point too:

    In case you missed it, there is a curious article in the From Our Archives featurette of the August 15th, 2012 Watchtower. In that article we are introduced to one Hugo Henry Riemer who is described as being " a member of the Governing Body ". This is interesting because the Governing Body (note the capital "G" and the capital "B") was not formally established as such until 1971, six years after Mr. Riemer's death!!!

  • Left in the Cold
    Left in the Cold

    As a very minor side note, once again women are not important enough to be involved. Only 'brothers'. I don't like that.

  • Unbrainwashed publisher1
    Unbrainwashed publisher1

    Does anybody in the so called "Truth" ever stop and ask where are they getting this stuff from? Does Satan run his Org better than Jehovah? Think about it in whatever country you live in you know who runs the government!!!! How does Satan get this right and Jehovah's organization can't figure out whose leading or feeding who? LOL

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Certainly is a total lack of scriptures to support their new reinvention.

    "Although they were anointed by holy spirit, the apostles and other first-century Christians were not “the faithful and discreet slave” prophesied by Jesus."

    Why not? There was a governing body in the first century, why doesn't WT call it the Governing Body (with caps) and "the faithful and discreet slave"? These were people that knew Jesus personally and supposedly responsible for the New Testament, but they aren't the FDS? How do some bozos in New York better qualify to lead the Christian congregation?

    "Jesus’ apostles had miraculous gifts of holy spirit, so there was scant reason to raise that question in the first century C.E."

    Few of the apostles had any miraculous gifts. Examining the early Christian history, even many of the divisions Paul spoke of, clearly there were questions about the leadership and direction of Christianity in the first century. Their reasoning doesn't add up at all.

    "The evidence points to the following conclusion: “The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919."

    What evidence? Where in his description of the fds does Jesus say it wouldn't appear for nearly 2000 years? Quite the contrary, the scriptures clearly state that Jesus does the appointing over the domestics at the time he leaves, not somehow after a time he returns invisibly in 1914 but before a time that he returns visibly an overlapping generation after 1914. If anything, Jesus words in the parable parallel his later instruction to Peter to feed his little sheep. WT should have stuck with their story about this beginning at the time of Christ. Jesus certainly never appeared to Rutherford with such an appointment.

    "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so!"

    With their revision, they no longer can say that they are truly "the faithful and discreet slave" since the context clearly shows that the slave is judged as either faithful or wicked, not at the time they would supposedly be appointed in 1919, but at the time of his arrival, which WT has now moved into the future. It wouldn't be until after the big A, an overlapping generation after 1914, that JC would judge whether they were faithful or wicked.

    As much as WT would just like to say the FDS is only the GB, they have to backtrack on a lot of history and context. This is as much a mess as their overlapping generation crap.

  • Mary
    Mary

    This is really no surprise as we've been discussing this probability for the last several years on here. With the number of rank and file Witnesses partaking of the emblems, the numbers are going up instead of down which cannot be going unnoticed. Plus, they've never consulted the thousands of other 'annointed' ones on anything and I think more and more people are asking "why not?"

    Their easiest solution is to make the F&DS class apply only to the GB. Problem solved.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    So Jesus only sits on a throne of JUDGMENT in the future when he comes per Matt 24:30 and 25:30, but he has been sitting on a throne of KINGSHIP since 1914.

    What the f*ck??????????

    BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT.

    JW's, use your god-given brains and realise that you are being BULLSHITTED.

    JESUS HAS NOT BEEN REIGNING AS KING SINCE 1914! ITS ALSO A FUTURE EVENT!

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