Is The "American Dream" is over?

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  • cantleave
    cantleave

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-american-dream-is-now-a-myth-2012-6

    One of the most distressing aspects of the state of the US economy is the decrease in social mobility.

    It is much, much harder now than it used to be for Americans to improve their circumstances.

    In other words, if Americans are born poor, they're overwhelmingly likely to stay poor.

    Similarly, if Americans are born rich, they have a much better chance of staying rich than someone born poor or middle class.

    No one minds inequality as long as one's station in life is a function of one's own decisions and effort.

    When inequality becomes the luck of the draw, however, if becomes much more profoundly unfair.

    America's social mobility is now not only one of the lowest in the country's history--it's one of the lowest in the first world.

    If that doesn't change, the fundamental promise of America for the past 250 years will disappear. The country will no longer be a place in which you can control your economic destiny. Rather, it will become the sort of society that so many of those who emigrated here sought to escape: A country in which your destiny is determined at birth.

    Earlier this week, professor Joseph Stiglitz sat down with my Yahoo colleague Aaron Task to talk about this issue.

    Here's the video and Aaron's writeup:

    Income inequality has become the subject of much debate in this country, in large part because of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

    In his latest book, The Price of Inequality, Columbia Professor and Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz examines the causes of income inequality and offers some remedies. In between, he reaches some startling conclusions, including that America is "no longer the land of opportunity" and "the 'American dream' is a myth."

    While we all know stories of people who've moved up the social stratosphere, Stiglitz says the statistics tell a very different story. In the last 30 years the share of national income held by the top 1% of Americans has doubled; for to the top 0.1%, their share has tripled, he reports. Meanwhile, median incomes for American workers have stagnated.

    Even more than income inequality, "America has the least equality of opportunity of any of the advanced industrial economies," Stiglitz says. In short, the status you're born into — whether rich or poor — is more likely to be the status of your adult life in America vs. any other advanced economy, including 'Old Europe'.

    For example, just 8% of students at America's elite universities come from households in the bottom 50% of income, Stiglitz says, even as those universities are "needs blind" — meaning admission isn't predicated on your ability to pay.

    "There's not much mobility up and down," he says. "The chances of someone from the top [income bracket] who doesn't do very well in school are better than someone from the bottom who does well in school."

    Because the children of those at the top of society tend to do better than those at the bottom — thanks, in part, to better education, health care and nutrition — the income inequality that's slowly emerged over the past 30 years will only widen in the next 10 to 20 years.

    If the root causes of income inequality go unaddressed, America will truly become a two-class society and look much more like a third world economy, Stiglitz warns. "People will live in gated communities with armed guards. It's a ugly picture. There will be political, social and economic turmoil." (Hence the book's subtitle: 'How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future')

    The good news is Stiglitz believes this "nightmare we're slowly marching toward" can be avoided, citing Brazil's experience since the early 1990s as an example of a country that has reduced income inequality. Among other things, he recommends improving education and nutrition for those at the bottom of society, and eliminating "corporate welfare" and other policies which "create wealth but not economic growth."

    For example, he cites the provision in Medicare Part D which forbids the federal government from negotiating prices with the drug companies. Over 10 years, that rule will generate approximately $500 billion for the industry, he estimates, but no tangible benefit for taxpayers or the economy as a whole.

    Importantly, Stiglitz believes inequality of wealth and opportunity are hurting the overall economy, by limiting competition, promoting cronyism and keeping those at the bottom from reaching their potential.

    "What I want is a more dynamic economy and a fairer society," he says, suggesting income inequality is ultimately detrimental to those at the top, too. "My point is we've created an economy that is not in accord with the principles of the free market."

  • talesin
    talesin

    Amen!

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    better education, health care and nutrition

    I agree. And would add that another advantage of being well-born is the opportunity for travel, exposure to new experiences and a wider variety of people. Well-off parents tend to associate with others of similiar socio-economic status and their children thus become comfortable in the company of the educated, the professionals and the movers and shakers of the world.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    00:05 - Welcome to the ECS Empire Civilization Sim. Your refugee citizens are full of dreams and wonderment, would you like to fulfil their dreams?

    Y [ x ] N [ ]

    02:11 - Your citizens believe you, which tactics will you use to bring about their dreams of peace and prosperity?

    Military Protection [ x ] Economic Security [ x ] Enforcement of Justice [ x ] Freedom of Choice [ x ] Freedom for Opportunity [ x ]

    02:56 - Warning! Your citizens dreams are in danger of becoming a myth
    11:55 - Your citizen's dreams have become a myth. Restarting Civilization from last known time of happiness

    00:05 - Your refugee citizens are full of dreams and wonderment, would you like to fulfil their dreams?

    Y [ ] N [ x ]

    -Sab

  • Night Owl
    Night Owl

    No.

    It's just starting over.

    NightOwl

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    It is largely a bit of propaganda to keep Americans jumping through hoops in order to improve their lot, while on the whole they are jogging in place.

  • designs
    designs

    Look at a chart showing the decrease in Unions and the decrease in middle class incomes, watch Bill Maher's Show this past week..

  • finally awake
    finally awake

    I am much better off than my mother was, and much better off than my inlaws were. I don't have any hope at all that my kids will be better off than I am - I'm really just hoping that they can match our current economic status.

  • talesin
    talesin

    George Carlin's thoughts on the American Dream

    It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.

    **** language ****

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_7ilxZnrwc&feature=related

    tal

  • Night Owl
    Night Owl

    In an interview in 2001 George told Larry Getlen that he made about 2 1/2 million a year.



    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_george_carlin_networth#ixzz1xRoh2IjS So what the hell was G.C. complaining about? About being in the top 5 or 10 percent? He had the "dream". NightOwl

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