My Latest View On J.W.

by FlierMate 30 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    They claim to have been chosen, in 1919, to be Jehovah's sole channel of communication.

    How do you prove that? How do you explain away their prophetic failures? How do you explain this from the August 15, Watchtower?

    There are plans to develop a 248-acre (100 ha) property at Warwick. “Although we are not yet certain of Jehovah’s will regarding Warwick,” said Brother Pierce, “we are proceeding to develop the site with the intention of relocating the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses there.”

    If the claim is true, what should you do?

    If it isn't true, what should you do?

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Sitting on the fence is not all bad . . . you get to see both sides of the issue.

    Make sure you make a thorough inspection while you're there . . . it's the coming down off it that matters. You need to get that bit right.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Hello fliermate,

    It's alright to love your fellowman along wit lovin' Jehovah, he incourages it

    just because you show love to a sinner doesn't mean you approve of them sinning

    love covers a multitude of things

    except the sugar coated cow patties of the WTS

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Hey there Phizzy

    eve only took a fraction of the fruit, one bite

    and now the WTS say's

    You can do a fraction of " blood " which they equate to idolitry and fornication._______reasoning book page 71

    Don't you just love New light

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Your "serious sins" are small potatoes. It's not like you committed adultery with another man's wife (despite already having a harem), then had her husband murdered, then married the woman to hide the crimes, then found most of your family killed as punishment for your wrongdoing. You're no King David. So you can drop the "serious sins" notion. What you listed are "minor issues".

    You may be sitting on the fence for now. But if you take the time and effort to really examine JWs, the Bible, and the real world, you'll see that there isn't much on the JW side.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    The whole religion is foul. They create many an emotional problem with their stupid rules--especially those who are born in. Just about everything that is human nature, they trash and claim it's sinful. Why would a loving God create humans with the craving for sex and then deprive them of it, or make it "dirty"? And why make so many rules that prevent people from trying out new sex among each other? And they make such a big deal about it.

    Additionally, they demand so much of your time. They expect you to read rubbish. Most of what you read is about attending boasting sessions, making more sacrifices, shunning fun, and giving your material belongings to the religion while doing all you can to cut back on work. And when they come up with something that seems to be substantial, it is for Jews only (they are the only ones involved in any of the "classes" and pacts--for everyone else, reading it is a complete waste of your time because you are not involved). Yet, you are supposed to figure out how you are supposed to fit in (you don't, unless you are actually a Jew) as a pretext for judging spirituality.

    Not to mention, you can't do enough. No matter what, you should be doing more. They make up stories about someone in an iron lung pious-sneering for 60 years, someone crossing crocodile rivers and walking 30 km each way to go to boasting sessions and never missing despite being beaten upon returning home, and the sickly brother putting in 230 hours a month in field circus. Never mind that, for them, the opportunity cost is probably much lower than for the average working person.

    While you might succeed in getting back in, I would not recommend it unless you have a damn good reason. Once you are back in, they are going to watch to make sure you are keeping up on your spiritually deadening work. You are actually better off simply doing basic meditation and non-doctrinal yoga than trying to get reinstated. A damn good reason might be to gain back family members, but you will need to fade and then they might blow you back in or shun you anyways. Starting with a simple void meditation (thinking of nothing) for, at first, a few seconds at a time (and working to 15 minutes) will probably do you more good than a lifetime of boasting sessions and field circus--and that's the most basic meditation.

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    CantLeave - I normally don't literally laugh out loud.....but that comment put me in stitches. :)

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    Idolatry, semi-fornication and rivalry?

    You have a rival?

    You only kind of sort of had sex?

    Who gets DF'd or DA'd for idolatry these days? Did you worship a golden calf?

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Idolatry, semi-fornication and rivalry? You have a rival? You only kind of sort of had sex?

    Who gets DF'd or DA'd for idolatry these days? Did you worship a golden calf?

    He French kissed his neighbor's wife while wearing a golden calf pendant. LOL

    OP, I hope you aren't offended by this...it's just the dubs' idea of what is a sin is so sick...humor is a coping mechanism. I am not dfd to my knowledge but here is the list of my sins after leaving (according to the dubs TM ):

    apostasy, blood transfusions, brazen conduct, independent thinking, drunkenness, fornication, causing divisions, bringing reproach, not showing proper submission, gambling, greed, idolatry, interfaith activity, perverted sex relations, pornography, reviling, spiritism, use of tobacco, false religion, swearing, and worst of all: toasting!!!

  • FlierMate
    FlierMate

    Thank you to everyone for your comments. It is too much for me to swallow and reply one by one.

    My mental state is not good as I was having difficult time to distingush hallucinations and delusions from demonic possessions.

    The idolatry, because of family background of Eastern religion to bow down before Buddha in temples.

    Semi-fornication, I'm sorry to mislead some of you, as it is simply my own definition to relate the act of masturbation solely by the opposite sex without a similar action in return. The original definition relates both parties playing each other genital organs. I have not into oral sex or sexual intercourse.

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