Diseases that force you to violate Jehovah's commands

by rebel8 38 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • dgp


  • badseed


  • Violia

    I had to seek mental health treatment and was told basically by elders that I was was consorting with the demons. In my area depression, anxiety, or really any form of mental illness was a sign that Jehovah had removed his spirit from you-otherwise you would have joy. No joy, no holy spirit. It took 2 yrs for my therapist to break through the wall I had put up . When asked how I felt I did not know. I had no emotions, I only knew what Jws told me I was supposed to feel. After about 2 yrs I was able to start identifying that while jws and the wts did teach a certain things, I personally did not feel that way. It was a huge breakthrough. It took a while but when I began to realize that I really did not believe what jws taught, I was on my way out. I had a long way to go, but the fact that someone was able to get me to stop saying " jws teach, the wts says, elder so and so says " was the first step.

  • mP

    im going to say living is banned in the bible. it would seem god is only ever happy in the ot when he has just doomed someone or many to death. we have the weird sado verse where it says he loves the smell of blood and death. we also have the case where he takes his own sons blood topay himself back...

  • maisha


    taking the pill is not restricted at all, whom ever told you such is not telling you the truth.

    as for not being able to swallow your own blood and having to lean foward that is complete rubbish...

    No JW would tell you such garbage.

    I really wonder sometimes when reading some of these posts where you dream up such stuff.


  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions
    This post has been rated click to view
  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    No JW would tell you such garbage.
    You've never met my mother. This stuff is more common than you think.
  • panhandlegirl

    I can't believe I was ever part of such a stupid organization. I would be embarrassed to let my friends know what some of these witnesses actually believe or say. If and when I cut my finger,it goes straight in my mouth. I know I

    shouldn't do that because of germs, but I never imagined I was breaking God's law on not eating blood (which I no longer believe). I think they are straining at the gnat and swallowing the camal! I took contraceptive pills and other

    methods to prevent pregnancy. I never even considered asking the elders about it. Who do they think they are, Catholics? There is a condition called aplastic anemia that requires multiple transfusions. I once heard a doctor say

    that if a JW developed aplastic anemia he/she was in bad trouble.

  • maisha

    I seriously wonder if you ever were part of the organisation panhandle, because that is not taught.

    saliva is a great antiseptic for any cut or wound,, your blood is yours! not somebody elses....

    nonsence stories are just that.. exagerated beyond reasonable concepts.

    such silly stories show clearly that you and others were not members or if you considered yourself to be such had no real understanding swaying from one story to another....

    personal thoughts of members of a congregation are just that, their own personal thoughts.

    Sad when they are considered factual stances of the organisation.

    Contraception is a personal matter for an individual to decide upon.

  • panhandlegirl

    I seriously wonder if you ever were part of the organisation panhandle, because that is not taught.

    saliva is a great antiseptic for any cut or wound,, your blood is yours! not somebody elses....

    maisha, I never said I believed swallowing your own blood was wrong, I agree that your blood is your blood, swallow to your hearts content. I was responding to the comments posted by others. Did you read them? As for me

    being in the organization,although I don't have to respond to your allegations, I will. I have probabably forgotten more than you'll ever know about the organization. I was in from 1948 until around 1984. My entire family is in, If it

    matters, I was considered for Bethel (thank God I didn't go). My mother was always proud of me because I always made 100% at the written review we used to have at the Ministry School.Two nephews at Bethel, several elders

    in the family and two district servants. Large family in the organization. You must still be in to take such offense. My older sister was a regular pioneer and I pioneered every few months She was childless (and still in) She would

    not allow her husband to become a circuit overseer because she did not like the way the CO's wives were treated, not enough respect; I had children. Apparently, you are also not a Registered Nurse, as I am, or you would

    know,fingers in the mouth is a NO NO. You may get germs or inadvertenly spread them. Saliva for a cut or wound. They never taught us that in Nursing School.

  • SafeAtHome

    Yes, having the RH negative factor in your blood. When I got pregnant I had been in a slow fade for about a year, so still had some influences on me. I found I had the RH factor which usually is not a problem for the first child, but could be in later births, so it is routine to give the mother a RhoGAM injection immediately after giving birth. Not having this could lead to blood related problems for the baby in later births. I found out that RhoGAM is a sterilized solution made from human blood and therefore was forbidden by the Witnesses. Well, since by then I knew what I had been raised in for 25 years was a load of hooey, I had the shot without broadcasting it to my family. (I was remarried to a nonwitness so it really wasn't an issue to us.) The RH negative factor is rare but not uncommon, so I am sure other Witness women have had to deal with this. The only personal experience I knew of was some 50 years ago in our congregation when a woman gave birth to her 3rd child and this was an issue. They wanted to replace the baby's blood with a transfusion which was of course refused. Fortunately the child survived, but had many expensive medical issues that could have been prevented. (She has since grown up, had babies of her own, and last I heard was no longer a Witness!)

    And, BTW, to maisha, yes, there are numerous whackos in the congregations when it comes to health care and trying to impose their ideas on others. And the elders telling you that you can't do something to stumble someone else, even if you and your conscience have no problem with it. I was "in" from 1961 till 1984 and saw this all the time.

  • zeb

    Dear Rebel18, The longer I live the more I am convinced there is something in the water in the usa. I am amazed and distressed that some of the 'beliefs' that people come out with only seem to belong there.

    I have NEVER heard of any of the mental regulating faecal matter you speak of in Australia and this is a very multi racial country with Bros n sisters from many lands here.

    You have my sympathies. Let commonsense be your guide give 'elders' the flick.

  • rebel8


    Wow, how rude of you to call me a liar.

    Back at ya. You're a liar.

    I really wonder sometimes when reading some of these posts WHY you dream up such stuff. Think about your motive to make such a bizarre claim that you even knew the same people I knew growing up, or that you have even the wildest idea what they did or said.


  • JWB

    I wonder if phobias would qualify?


    Allodoxaphobia: Fear of opinions
    Anuptaphobia: Fear of staying single
    Atelophobia: Fear of imperfection
    Atychiphobia: Fear of failure

    Bibliophobia: Fear of books

    Satanophobia: Fear of Satan
    Soteriophobia : Fear of dependence on others

    Teleophobia: 1) Fear of definite plans 2) Religious ceremony
    Theologicophobia: Fear of theology
    Theophobia: Fear of gods or religion
    Tyrannophobia: Fear of tyrants

    Public Ministry

    Ambulophobia: Fear of walking
    Amaxophobia: Fear of riding in a car
    Anthropophobia: Fear of people or society

    Hodophobia: Fear of road travel

    Kinetophobia or Kinesophobia: Fear of movement or motion

    Laliophobia or Lalophobia: Fear of speaking

    Ochophobia: Fear of vehicles

    Scriptophobia: Fear of writing in public

    Tachophobia: Fear of speed

    Meetings and Assemblies

    Anthropophobia: Fear of people or society
    Androphobia: Fear of men

    Cathisophobia: Fear of sitting
    Claustrophobia: Fear of confined spaces

    Ecclesiophobia: Fear of church
    Enochlophobia: Fear of crowds
    Ephebiphobia: Fear of teenagers

    Gerontophobia: Fear of old people or of growing old
    Gynephobia or Gynophobia: Fear of women

    Hypnophobia: Fear of sleep or of being hypnotized

    Kopophobia: Fear of fatigue

    Macrophobia: Fear of long waits
    Melophobia: Fear or hatred of music

    Metathesiophobia: Fear of changes

    Neophobia: Fear of anything new

    Pedophobia: Fear of children
    Peladophobia: Fear of bald people
    Pentheraphobia: Fear of mother-in-law (Novercaphobia)

    Symbolophobia: Fear of symbolism

    Syngenesophobia: Fear of relatives

    Verbophobia: Fear of words
    Vitricophobia: Fear of step-father

    (See http://phobialistcom/)

  • not bitter
    not bitter

    not an illness as such but a JW can't have IVF or IUI as it involves the man masterbating.

  • dgp

    Those phobias would not qualify, Brother JWB. Have you been reading apostate material?

  • undercover
    This post has been rated click to view
  • james_woods

    Would ADHD count? A new study has concluded that fully 1 out of 4 ADHD patients are faking the symptoms to get the drugs.

    The drugs used for it are basically amphetamines - dexadrine being a favorite.

  • HintOfLime

    And then there is worst of all diseases that force you to violate Jehovah's commands:

    The deadly mental disease of apostacy!!!!

    - Lime

Share with others