Why should we hold other people responsible for what child sexual abusers do?

by Lady Lee 35 Replies latest jw friends

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I have been thinking a lot about my cousin who was sexually abused in my mother’s home. I am still angry. So I had to ask myself, “Why am I more angry at her than I am at him?” My answer to that is that she had an obligation to protect every child who came into her home. So what is my rationale for that?

    My mother has dogs. She loves her dogs, dotes on them and they are great dogs. Well at least the ones I knew were great. But what if one of those dogs had a history of biting people? If the dog bit a child while in her home would she be held legally responsible? Would her responsibility end if she told the parents that the dog bites so don’t let the child get too close or leave them alone with the child? What if she gave no warning and the child was bitten? Does that increase her responsibility and liability?

    In many places there are laws that require some dogs to be muzzled when going out. If a dog bites a child they are often put down. There is a zero tolerance for animals that attack, especially if the victim is a child. And the owners can be sued for the actions of the dog.

    Well my stepfather is not a dog. But he had a history of sexually abusing children both his own and my sister who was living in his house. She told me about those assaults. Did that mean she was off the hook if he abused another child? Did she warn my uncle? Would that have left her off the hook, lessen her responsibility?

    This man, like my sister’s father, sexually abused children over a period of decades. And he was never reported for it. As far as I know his daughters never reported him although they did tell my mother. When he attempted to abuse my sister my mother did not report him, just like she never reported my sister’s father.

    Maybe if someone through all those years had reported him, a little 4 year old child would have been saved from his clutches.

    As I am writing this I realize the same questions apply to another situation. The Watchtower Society and any Jehovah’s Witness that knows about a sexual predator should be held legally responsible if they hide the abuse and protect the abuser from the law. Through their inactions they are responsible when the abuser strikes again.

    So, yes I am angry at my mother for not protected the children who live or visit her home. I am also angry at meddling elders who encouraged and may even have warned her to be silent about the abuses. And I am angry at an organization that claims to love and protect children but in reality does nothing and protects the abusers.

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    Lady Lee, I couldn't agree more! The law on dogs is that if the owner becomes AWARE that their dog is aggressive and subsiquently it bites someone the penaltys are much more severe than if the bite comes out of the blue. What rational owner would KEEP a vicious dog let alone let it near children???? Yet this has happened in your family and in the Borg with pedophiles!!!!

    You have every right to be angry. So very sorry for your pain. (((((((((hugs)))))))))

  • Ding
    Ding

    What would we think of any bystander (even a total stranger) who saw such a thing going on and did nothing to stop it or at least report it?

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    LL,

    I cannot imagine what you have gone through.

  • talesin
    talesin

    LL, I have thought about this issue many, many times. I had a very bitter, angry discussion with my mother about it, many years ago. As I've grown older, and passed 40, then 50, my feelings towards this issue have become stronger.

    The older I get, the more I know that children are to be loved, nurtured, and protected. Neglect IS abuse, and failure to protect IS abuse. That is my opinion, and it is only reinforced by the many lives I have seen destroyed by this horrific CRIME AGAINST NATURE.

    Let's make a brief comparison to another law of the land, to take away the 'emotional component'.

    Two people decide to hold up a liquor store; one drives the 'getaway car', and the other takes a gun into the liquor store. The driver does not know his accomplice had a gun. As often happens, things escalate, the liquor store clerk is shot, and killed.

    Under the law, BOTH participants in the crime are considered complicit and may be found guilty of MURDER.

    In the same way, those who fail to REPORT child sexual abuse and PROTECT victims of child sexual abuse, are complicit.

    If we all, as adults, made it our personal responsibility to be aware, report and protect, society could go a long way in eradicating this heinous and unforgivable crime against children.

    tal

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey Lady Lee!..

    Failing to warn people about Child Molesters is one thing..

    Your mom goes one step further..

    She "PUTS" the Child in a Position to be Molested..

    It gets her what she wants..

    For your mom..

    Molested Children is the Cost of doing Business..

    .................... ...OUTLAW

  • metatron
    metatron

    If nothing else......... Lady Lee....

    why encourage/hide/defend/complicate/obfuscate/conceal/deceive about the problem? A child gets hurt and adults can't do enough to cover it up, sometimes.

    I may get flamed .... or lynched... for saying this but society needs to think about reducing the penalties and increasing the enforcement about child sexual abuse. Why?

    The Eternal Law of Unintended Consequences

    I often fear that penalties for this vile behavior may push offenders to murder children rather than be caught. I fear that immoderate punishments may encourage organizations to promote a code of silence such as the 'Watchtower Omerta' or Catholic "Move the priest to another parish', rather than fixing the problem.

    There is a great wisdom in the Buddhist idea that the interpretation of an act can be more important than the act itself. Is it really better for a child to label themselves as a victim, perhaps for life, of a heinous act? Would it better if they shrugged it off and the adult got punished to a degree that cost them greatly but DID NOT TRIGGER a reaction that the crime be concealed because of collective disgrace of an institution?

    The ultimate goal here is, protect the child, not punish the offender. Sometimes, that gets forgotten. The two are not the same thing in all cases.

    metatron

  • blondie
    blondie

    I hope that any who share metatron's opinion have a personal understanding having been sexually abused as a child or care about one that has been. I was abused and I started healing when I acknowledged what had happened to me and that I was not responsible. My speaking out protected and helped at least 7 others. And how would that person be "punished" or held responsible if no one spoke out?

    I was going to say that the Law of Moses had an interesting law and we know how the WTS lives their lives according to that rather than the law of love. If a man had a known dangerous bull that he did not keep under guard and it killed someone, he was held responsible. How much more so knowing a person is dangerous and not do anything to protect others.

    (Exodus 21:29-30) . . .But if a bull was formerly in the habit of goring and warning was served on its owner but he would not keep it under guard, and it did put a man or a woman to death, the bull is to be stoned and also its owner is to be put to death. 30 If a ransom should be imposed upon him, then he must give the redemption price for his soul according to all that may be imposed upon him.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    talesin

    Those who collaborsate even if it is only to have a suspicion and then do nothing should be held liable. More than once I have heard things going on at a neighbors home and have called the police to check it out.

    Yes OUTLAW my mother is good at throwing the kids under the bus if it helps her.

    Metatron

    I think there needs to be a two pronged method of dealing with issues of abuse. There is the legal one for sure. And I think we need to start charging the other people who knew and did nothing.

    But htere is also the need to provide treatment to the victims and that is doone far too rarely. I firmly belienve that this problem will continue as long as we don't help the victims recover from the abuse and get all the help they need until they are adults. If we can help the vicitms to grow up and not get into abusive relationships maybe we can stop the cycle of abuse from repeating itself.

    blondie

    so true. Somehow in our society we think that being a whistle-blower is a bad thing. Perhaps if more people were willing to call the authorities, police and/or social services there would be fewer innocent children who have to suffer. Abusers will not stop what they do until somebody stops them.

  • talesin
    talesin

    shrugged it off

    Can't be done. As Lady Lee says, treatment is required. The penalties for child molestation are very light in most cases,,, often a slap on the wrist.

    It's more about the devaluation of children. Many folks grow up to lead healthy lives if the abuse is not covered up and they get treatment. The recividism rate among offenders, even with treatment is over 90%.

    I feel no need to protect the reputation of institutions, be it the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, the Hockey League coaches, or JWs. They need to take responsibility as entities who deal with children --- to ensure they don't sweep crimes under the rug in order to protect their oh-so-precious reputations.

    ugh

    t

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