No Tattoos for JWs? Then why no beards?

by punkofnice 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • punkofnice

    As elders we were told that tattoos were a no no! because Leviticus 19:28 says not......and Jar Hoover doesn't change according to Micah.

    The verse prior says not to cut your beard.

    We have here typical WBT$ SPIN. Take one scripture literally and 'appeal to authority' ie. Jar Hoover in Micah but the rest can be non literal. DUPLICITY!

    The WBT$ would do well to actually listen to this scripture in context (hard for them I know), then they'd probably get off their high horse and treat people as equals not as 'mentally diseased'.

    Here is Lev 19 from the NWT (Not Well Translated)

    1 And Jehovah spoke further to Moses, saying: 2 “Speak to the entire assembly of the sons of Israel, and you must say to them, ‘Y OU should prove yourselves holy, because I Jehovah YOUR God am holy.

    3 “‘Y OU should fear each one his mother and his father, and my sabbaths YOU should keep. I am Jehovah YOUR God. 4 Do not turn yourselves to valueless gods, and YOU must not make molten gods for yourselves. I am Jehovah YOUR God.

    5 “‘Now in case YOU should sacrifice a communion sacrifice to Jehovah, YOU should sacrifice it to gain approval for yourselves. 6 On the day of YOUR sacrifice and directly the next day it should be eaten, but what is left over till the third day should be burned in the fire. 7 If, though, it should at all be eaten on the third day, it is a foul thing. It will not be accepted with approval. 8 And the one eating it will answer for his error, because he has profaned a holy thing of Jehovah; and that soul must be cut off from his people.

    9 “‘And when YOU people reap the harvest of YOUR land, you must not reap the edge of your field completely, and the gleaning of your harvest you must not pick up. 10 Also, you must not gather the leftovers of your vineyard, and you must not pick up the scattered grapes of your vineyard. For the afflicted one and the alien resident you should leave them. I am Jehovah YOUR God.

    11 “‘Y OU people must not steal, and YOU must not deceive, and YOU must not deal falsely anyone with his associate. 12 And YOU must not swear in my name to a lie, so that you do profane the name of your God. I am Jehovah. 13 You must not defraud your fellow, and you must not rob. The wages of a hired laborer should not stay all night with you until morning.

    14 “‘You must not call down evil upon a deaf man, and before a blind man you must not put an obstacle; and you must be in fear of your God. I am Jehovah.

    15 “‘Y OU people must not do injustice in the judgment. You must not treat the lowly with partiality, and you must not prefer the person of a great one. With justice you should judge your associate.

    16 “‘You must not go around among your people for the sake of slandering. You must not stand up against your fellow’s blood. I am Jehovah.

    17 “‘You must not hate your brother in your heart. You should by all means reprove your associate, that you may not bear sin along with him.

    18 “‘You must not take vengeance nor have a grudge against the sons of your people; and you must love your fellow as yourself. I am Jehovah.

    19 “‘Y OU people should keep my statutes: You must not interbreed your domestic animals of two sorts. You must not sow your field with seeds of two sorts, and you must not put upon yourself a garment of two sorts of thread, mixed together.

    20 “‘Now in case a man lies down with a woman and has an emission of semen, when she is a maidservant designated for another man, and she has not in any way been redeemed nor has freedom been given her, punishment should take place. They should not be put to death, because she was not set free. 21 And he must bring his guilt offering to Jehovah to the entrance of the tent of meeting, a ram of guilt offering. 22 And the priest must make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering before Jehovah for his sin that he committed; and his sin that he committed must be forgiven him.

    23 “‘And in case YOU people come into the land, and YOU must plant any tree for food, YOU must also consider its fruitage impure as its “foreskin.” For three years it will continue uncircumcised for YOU . It should not be eaten. 24 But in the fourth year all its fruit will become a holy thing of festal exultation to Jehovah. 25 And in the fifth year YOU may eat its fruit in order to add its produce to yourselves. I am Jehovah YOUR God.

    26 “‘Y OU must eat nothing along with blood.

    “‘Y OU must not look for omens, and YOU must not practice magic.

    27 “‘Y OU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard.

    28 “‘And YOU must not make cuts in YOUR flesh for a deceased soul, and YOU must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.

    29 “‘Do not profane your daughter by making her a prostitute, in order that the land may not commit prostitution and the land actually be filled with loose morals.

    30 “‘My sabbaths YOU should keep, and YOU should stand in awe of my sanctuary. I am Jehovah.

    31 “‘Do not turn yourselves to the spirit mediums, and do not consult professional foretellers of events, so as to become unclean by them. I am Jehovah YOUR God.

    32 “‘Before gray hair you should rise up, and you must show consideration for the person of an old man, and you must be in fear of your God. I am Jehovah.

    33 “‘And in case an alien resident resides with you as an alien in YOUR land, YOU must not mistreat him. 34 The alien resident who resides as an alien with YOU should become to YOU like a native of YOURS ; and you must love him as yourself, for YOU became alien residents in the land of Egypt. I am Jehovah YOUR God.

    35 “‘Y OU must not commit injustice in judging, in measuring, in weighing or in measuring liquids. 36 Y OU should prove to have accurate scales, accurate weights, an accurate e´phah and an accurate hin. Jehovah YOUR God I am, who have brought YOU out of the land of Egypt. 37 So YOU must keep all my statutes and all my judicial decisions, and YOU must do them. I am Jehovah.’”

  • cantleave

    27 “‘Y OU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard.

    I got in so much trouble for trying to grow my hair long in the late 70's.

  • punkofnice

    cantleave - Same here! Controlling cult!

  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    I though Messianic Law meant scrapping everything in the old testament? You know, dont eat a cows bollock on a Friday, dont eat cheese on a Tuesday, etc etc..........

    My ex-teacher told me once Messianic law was enforced, everything else written before was pretty much null and void. They are cherry picking as per ususal.

    Ive seen Angus with long hair. Dont go there, it aint preety!!

  • cantleave

    Paula - I was thinking of getting a hair transplant so I can headbang to Rainbow again!!!

  • punkofnice

    Pams girl - Cows bollocksand cheese..........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Cantleave - If I tried to headbang to anything I'd break my bloomin' neck at my age.

  • hotspur

    Hmmm... dont eat a cows bollock on a Friday...

    Genetically incorrect I believe .... bullocks and bulls however!

  • wobble

    These nit-picking rules were annoying, especially when they used the O.T as authority, just the bits that suited them of course, but the sad thing is they do the same thing with the Blood Doctrine, most of that comes from the O.T, and people die because of it.

    Murdering bastards.

  • Greybeard

    The beard issue is the one thing that has bothered me the most as a Jehovah's Witness. They have absolutely no scriptural grounds to enforce this. As Punk has shown from the Bible, it is opposite! Leviticus 19:27, ‘YOU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard." I think it had more to do with controlling the young men at Bethel and keeping them younger looking. Possibly more feminine looking as well. I would think the first men who practiced this must have been pagan trying to look like females. I always had hoped they would discover that ties were pagan too. Who puts a choke rope around their neck and walks around with it? No doubt it was a kinky pagan practice at first.

  • sd-7

    There are two photos side by side in the Proclaimers book--one with C.T. Russell and a long beard, and another with J.F. Rutherford, clean shaven.

    There are no coincidences. It's obvious that Rutherford started that up. And all he needed was his own authority as running the THEOCRACY or whatever.


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