How much do you, the atheists here on the board base your own personal disbelief on the bible and religion? In your discussions do you prefer using the bible and religion as part or most of your argument or do you prefer debate purely on scientific and philisophical grounds?Are you totaly convinced of your position or are you openminded and occasionally consider that your position could be wrong; possibly even hope you are?
If you don't want to disprove the God of the Bible, I will gladly listen to proof of Jupitor or Odin. I like the way the Flying Sphaghetti Monster guy does it. FSM is just as valid as any god. (Yes, I am being totally serious.) Religion doesn't disprove God, the Bible doesn't disprove God. Philosophy helps. Religion and the Bible could easily support the deist.
I am totally convinced that none of the gods of man's invention exist. I am fairly well convinced that death is the end of the journey. There are no credible evidences of any life beyond death. But the science is fairly new and will take a few hundred years for the majority of everyone to accept. Ultimately, I think science will help practically everyone become atheists- not in our grandchildren's lifetimes, but sometime. But the tiniest crack of a possibility on that one exists to me that "life" is electricity which is energy and that since matter/energy can never be destroyed, the electricity lives on somehow someway and the atoms might have the tiniest bit of retention from previous uses in previous bodies. But I could not take it all the way to reincarnation. It's not really science, but some things are beyond us and always will be.
I hate that you contrast "convinced" atheists with "openminded." What a load of crap. Are there genuine believers openminded enough to accept that the voice they hear may not be their lord, but might be a chemical or mental malfunction? (I say "genuine" because so many are just lying about it.) Before my grandfather died, he had dimentia and went blind. He was trying to tell me about something terrible that he was seeing. I told him it wasn't real. He asked how I knew that. "Because you are blind." "Oh yeah," he said. In a lucid moment, he was totally openminded, regardless of what his brain was telling him.
If you want me to be openminded, then I might accept that FSM or the Invisible Pink Unicorn (or Odin) is real. There may be many of what believers would call gods- advanced lifeforms beyond us that provided the spark of life. The God of the big three monotheistic beliefs- NO. His writings were proven false and created by men. But I could see those others hiding from us. Or maybe it's like Larry Niven's stories about magic. The earth was filled with magic at one time, but we've used it up. See how openminded I am?