with every new light....another false teaching is created...

by oompa 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Perry
    Just ask them if it was okay with Jehovah that they taught UNTRUTH for almost a century and how that affected who was saved or not.

    I don't think this bothers the average witness. Their answer to everything is in effect "at least we weren't like those other guys going to war and all". In their mind this is the defining thing that should make everyone flock to them if they love truth. Only problem is that avoiding military service to your country isn't prohibited in the bible. Just think Corneilus.

  • tec

    The WTS isn't the only religious group who doesn't go to war, though, either.

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    Then there is the walsh trial transcript

    where they admitted under oath to teach false 'truth'...

    Q. It was promulgated as a matter which must be believed by all members of Jehovah's witnesses that the Lord's Second Coming took place in 1874?(A short discussion of evidence given by Fred W Franz about 1874 takes place here.)

    Q. That was the publication of false prophecy?
    That was the publication of a false prophecy, it was a false statement or an erroneous statement in fulfillment of a prophecy that was false or erroneous.Q. And that had to be believed by the whole of Jehovah's Witnesses?
    Yes, because you must understand, we must have unity, we cannot have disunity with a lot of people going every way, an army is supposed to march in step. Q. Back to the point now, a false prophecy was promulgated? A. I agree to that.Q. It had to be accepted by Jehovah's witnesses?
    That is correct.Q. If a member of Jehovah's witnesses took the view himself that that prophecy was wrong, and said so, would he be disfellowshipped?
    Yes, if he said so, and kept on persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erroneous, and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across, then there is a disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching ...... Our purpose is to haveunity. Q. Unity at all costs?
    Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation,the governing body of our organisation, to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time. Q. A unity based on an enforced acceptance of false prophecy? A. That is conceded to be true.Q. And the person who expresses his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the covenant, if he was baptised?
    That is correct.Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?
    I think....Q. Would you say yes or no?
    I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.Q. Do you call that religion?
    It certainly is.Q. Do you call that Christianity?
    I certainly do.

  • Terry

    If it were TRUE---why did you CHANGE it?

    if it were NOT true---why did you say God gave it to you?

  • Quandry

    Aussie...........if only we'd all known...........................doesn't it sound like something from a bad movie?

  • OnTheWayOut

    Russell said that new light would add to the truth, so it would not change it but make it clearer. (Not his exact words, just a summary)

    But that would have left his heirs with very little room to wiggle out of problems like the old truths not happening as predicted.

    So they started contradicting old truths with new light and still pretend that it "adds" to the truth. Yeah, it's Orwellian.

  • NewYork44M

    Their response will be ..."and the light gets brighter."

    But should the light change colors? And how many of the "present truths" will soon be old light?

    An elder used a stupid example on me. Something about a house being painted or something.
    Just because it's blue now doesn't mean it was never red.

    It doesn`t matter what colour you paint the WBT$ OutHouse..

    It`s still full of Shit..



  • thetrueone

    New light = new bullshit

    Old light = old bullshit

    In the pretense of the WTS. being the only sole channel from god's holy spirit, over time they've had to make adjustments and revisions to that

    said all important exclusive light. Its just simple sales and marketing folks wrapped up with a ribbon of religious virtue, presented and designed

    to appeal to the general public.

    No matter color the WTS changes their bullshit, its always going to be nothing but bullshit, well until the door to the out house closes completely.

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