Stating the OBVIOUS with such a sense of "discovery"! False prophecy

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  • Terry

    Charles Taze Russell, J.F.Rutherford, Fred Franz and the entire Watchtower writing department from 1879 to this day have fallen into a trap.

    They state the obvious with a profound sense of "discovery".

    Meaning what?

    They look at "today" and look at the "past" and ignore the fact that nobody can look at tomorrow!

    In what sense?


    Identifying "signs" as signals of End Times, each of these writers and thinkers have fallen into a fallacy of chronology.

    C.T.Russell identified a meteor shower, Napoleon's defeat and custody of the Pope as THE IDENTIFYING "signs" in fulfillment of Bible prophecy about the Time of the End. He added to that measurements in the Great Pyramid and various computations of Daniel's prophecy.

    What is the fallacy?

    TODAY is only TODAY; what happens tomorrow or next year or ten years from now MAY HAVE A BETTER "fit" for prophecy fulfillment!

    Time after Time prophecy interpreters fall prey to the fallacy of identifying TODAY'S EVENTS as THE fulfillments!

    Time after Time they are dead wrong!

    In essence, they state what appears to be the OBVIOUS (wars, famines, earthquakes, lawlessness, etc) with a sense of DISCOVERY!

    The worst part is that they pass off this fallacious thinking as GOD SPEAKING THROUGH THEM to warn us!!

    If this "technique" of looking at today's newsworthy events as THE SIGN actually worked---Armageddon would have come two thousand times!

    It hasn't and it doesn't and it won't!

    What makes the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness obvious frauds as a "mouthpiece of god" or as an "anointed" faithful and discreet authority or an accurate interpreter of prophecy is COLD FACT that reality never produces evidence of their WORDS matching EVENTS such as Armaggedon!

    Proof is not the same as CLAIMS!

    Proof is actual happening of claims!

    False prophecy is false claims.

    The OBVIOUS signs of the End are in every single issue of the Watchtower since 1879 with equal ERROR of identification!

    Stop and think! How can you be wrong every month for 132 years and claim JEHOVAH SPEAKS THROUGH YOU??

    Instead of true prophetic guidance from above, the Governing Body is doing a RAIN DANCE.

    They intend to keep dancing until it rains and then CLAIM CREDIT!

    This is what Pastor Russell did with 1914's WWI outbreak. 25 years of pointing out "sign fulfillments" had produced ZERO. But, Russell kept on dancing and pointing to the sky and the clouds.

    One day in August of 1914 war broke out and Russell "claimed it" as the rain he had been dancing for all along!

    Small problem: no Armageddon.

    The best he could produce was an invisible Jesus. Of course, this destroyed what he had been claiming as true all along: Jesus had already returned invisibly just as William Miller had predicted.

    But, stating the Obvious with a new sense of "discovery" can be called something more attractive: New Light.

    New Light= Wrong Before but Right this time! (We hope)
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  • punkofnice

    Very true what you say Terry. The DO state the obvious as if it's a fantastic proof of the end..SOON!

    Instead of true prophetic guidance from above, the Governing Body is doing a RAIN DANCE.
    They intend to keep dancing until it rains and then CLAIM CREDIT!

    ....and they're covering themselves with 'overlapping generations'!


    The end didn't come because we were right! They're overlapping!! It will come SOON though!

  • Terry

    Jehovah's Witnesses are not a salvation religion. Nobody is saved in it this very day or any day in the past.

    What are they?

    PROCESS oriented publicity machine.

    The "process" is getting as many members as possible declaring an event on the horizon. But, as you approach the horizon it recedes!

    The Watchtower religion publicity department is predicting the arrival of the HORIZON ITSELF!

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Growing up in the religion it never downed on me how utterly stupid it was to say that Jesus had come only that he was invisible. I bought into it as it was all I ever knew and I would tote it out in service at all the door with world war 1 as my back up of proof. Now truly thinking it through how totally stupid it is.

    Jesus is ruling! Only it is invisibly! I was reading this book "Letting go of God" by Julia Sweeney and a quote from it has this sentence "the invisible and none-existent often look very much alike."

    Bottom line you have to have faith to believe what the JW's say. But what is your faith based on? A invisible Jesus. Looking at it that way the JW's totally sound crazy.

    I remember when I was a very small child and my grandfather who was very intelligent would get so frustrated with my parents for being JW's telling them that that the religion was nuts. I was so little and my parents told me he was crazy. I would have given anything to have been older and to have been able to truly talk to him. He died when I was still too young to understand where he was coming from. Now I know.


  • OnTheWayOut
    The worst part is that they pass off this fallacious thinking as GOD SPEAKING THROUGH THEM to warn us!!

    I hate when people do that.

  • Terry

    "the invisible and none-existent often look very much alike."

    Yes, right up there with the "love" the brothers show for you when you really need them!

  • cptkirk

    "The best he could produce was an invisible Jesus."

    what was the basis for jesus ever needing to become active invisibly anyway? as if to say he was inactive invisibly, then he became invisibly active.

    wouldn't he have become active the instant he ascended ?

  • Terry

    Post Resurrection and Ascension Jesus is one GIANT PUZZLE!

    In fact, the whole heaven thing---what the flip does anybody ACTUALLY DO up there?

    The JW version of RETURN of CHRIST is metaphorical.

    The Watchtower has Jesus "turning his attention" toward the Earth.

    Oh, really? You mean, he HAD NOT BEEN PAYING ANY ATTENTION until 1914? What's up with that??

    What ever happened to the "I will not leave you or by any means forsake you?" Jesus promised?

    Invisible Jesus is one gigantic COP-OUT for a failed adventist screwup.

    They doubled down on the error and raised it to the primary foundational belief!

    Now that is HUBRIS!!

  • designs

    That's why religious people are called Believers, you are not to engage in overly critical thinking.

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