Need some advice, PLEASE!

by TweetieBird 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Chariklo

    If there is a family tendency to schizophrenia, then it's highly likely that drug use is going to exacerbate it. Drug use can bring out this illness that might otherwise remain latent and never get activated. Once it develops following drug use, it's there. It doesn't usually go away on its own.

    Early adulthood is the classic time for schizophrenia to develop, and it isn't just one illness. A wide range of illnesses and different manifestations can occur, some typical but many are individual and atypical.

    It sounds to me as if your son might need medical help, and certainly you'll need some skilled support yourselves, as living with schizophrenia is a very testing thing. You'll know this already from your experience with your brother.

    In the UK treatment and carer support are readily available, once the need is recognised. I see you're in the US, and I hope it's easy to access for you too.

  • rebel8

    I think before you can work on anything else your son needs to be evaluated properly by a physician and follow through with the recommended course of treatment.

    No family issues, motivational issues, etc. can be effectively addressed while there are symptoms of mental illness and/or drug/alcohol abuse going on. None.

  • mummatron

    There's been some brilliant practical suggestions and sensible advice suggested already, but just to add my 2c/2p ...

    Mental health issues and an addictive personality often goes hand-in-hand, with the addiction being a symptom of the mental health disorder. Treating the addiction without treating the underlying cause may trigger further addictions with different substances, foods, gambling or certain behavioral patterns. Mental health disorders are usually caused by chemical imbalances/deficiencies in the brain (serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine) and substances such as alcohol and cannabis will temporarily cause those chemicals to rise. Other warning signs are consuming high quantities of dairy products - particularly cheese - as these raise dopamine levels, excessive caffeine consumption to combat periods of insomnia and any habitual behaviour that stimulates the brain's reward centre, such as always buying a lotto scratchcard at the store when out to get milk, frequent one-night stands etc.

    I have a relative who suffers from schizophrenia and this person abuses alcohol simply to function. From my own teenage years I realised I too had an addictive personality which is why I've always refused to experiment with powders and pills like my peers have and to this day have never set foot in a casino. I suspect that a genetic pre-disposition to mental health disorders was one factor in me developing Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. My ex-husband is bi-polar but for the duration of our relationship refused any medical assistance. Prior to meeting me he'd been an alcoholic but as he was entirely unmedicated and could no longer use alcohol as a crutch, he eventually turned to weed to self-medicate. Whilst it calmed him enormously and prevented the insomniac episodes, he was spending around £50 a week on the stuff and was smoking it in the morning on the way to work and on 'cigarette' breaks at work.

    Having lost his job and his home, your son is already at rock bottom. An intervention or parental accompaniment to see his doctor can be considered 'tough love' if he won't go by himself. It won't be easy but as he has already opened up to you, his future seems very hopeful and he has a brilliant mother who cares for him! All the very best my dear. I'm sure you both can get through this and come out the other side stronger!

  • jamiebowers

    With mental illness being in the family, insist that he is evaluated by professionals. And after a quick Google search, I've found that spice is illegal in Florida.

    If he refuses to get mental health help, I suppose you could allow the police to search his room and arrest him. He may be court ordered then to get mental health and drug treatment.

  • talesin

    Dario, after reading your post, I did a little looking around the net about this new drug "Spice". I had thought he was literally smoking something that was a plant ... this is a scary drug!


    And though it contains synthetic cannabinoids,,, it is MUCH MUCH more!!! Excerpt:

    German researchers were able to determine that Spice contained a variety of synthetic cannabinoids, which are chemical compounds devised to produce marijuana-like effects. There was a high quantity of other synthetic chemicals found as well, indicating that a user really has no way of knowing what they are being exposed to. W orse yet, Spice appears to have many negative side effects that marijuana does not such as anxiety attacks, hallucinations, nausea, and a chemical dependency . Three teenagers in Roswell, GA were recently hospitalized after using Spice. One teen had a severe reaction to the drug, resulting in swelling of the brain.

    Well, let's hope you can get your son to the doctor,,, and soon.

    Keep us posted, please.


  • ohiocowboy

    I am so sorry Tweetie! I wish I had some ideas that would help. Maybe you could make him go to rehab? Whatever you do, DO NOT blame yourself. It was his decision to get involved with the pot and drinking. I have heard some bad stuff about the "Spice" so I hope he decides to stay away from that. I just want you to know that I love you and think of you a lot. I send positive thoughts your way.

    I hope things get better for you and your family!

  • ohiocowboy

    Tweetie, Please let us know you are Okay!

  • TweetieBird

    Thanks everyone for the input. To update, he has agreed that the "spice" was making him different and has gone back to smoking pot. Wish he didn't do any of it, but for him, it really is the lesser of 2 evils. He is very stubborn and hard-headed, will NEVER admit that he has a drug/alcohol problem so not sure how all of this will pan out. He is an adult so unless things change significantly, he will be moving out soon.

    He has agreed to going to a family counselor, so that is probably the next step. Things are much better now.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    If he never got therapy for being raised a JW then he should.

    All born-ins/raised-ins need therapy, IMO. It did wonders for me and my wife.

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